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Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1)

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    Devis @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by Devis 4 Jan 2025, 19:26 1 Apr 2025, 19:09

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
    Since I always pressed the down button to mark each length (25m), I circled some “50m” because the watch had already counted 25m for the previous lap and another 25m for the next lap. So, I think the watch overestimated the distance by +25m in these laps.
    … probably I have not understand how the down button acts/syncronize with the watch distance algoritm.
    Thanks for any your help.

    Devis

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      Александр Даниленко @Inge Nallsson
      last edited by Александр Даниленко 4 Mar 2025, 11:15 3 Apr 2025, 11:10

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

      As a swimmer I fully agree with @Inge-Nallsson about lap button.

      It is very strange logic, when watch show zero lap times when you dont swim. Or when they show a time they measured automatically after pressing lap button - I dont understand what is the point of lap button in this paradigm.

      Automatic intervals time counting works good in Suunto, but definitely not perfect.

      I found the way to make the watch count real times in the swimming by pressing lap button (using bug of completed stuctured workout, but that is another story) and found that still the automatic time counting isn’t that reliable.

      As example I can show part of my last training session. Below on the screenshots you can see I did a set 10×100m breaststroke with rest time between 30~40 sec. For each 100m I counted manually, although keep in mind that manual lap counting in the swimming gives at least additional 2 second comparing to real time (because of delay press-swim-stop-press).

      First screenshots is manual counting by pressing lap button (using bug). On the second screenshots is autimatic watch counting and my corrections:
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      As you can see, the watch automatically count time as 1’33, but manual lap counting gave 1’31. As I explained above, manual counting give a delay at least for a 2 sec, so the real time for most intervals is ~1’29. So, at least 4 sec delay between real and automatically counted by the watch time.

      They doesn’t always behave like that, adding time comparing to real. Often they ± coincide. Sometimes even give less. But you neven know it, until you start manually count the time, which is more reliable.

      Moreover, if I do leg kicking sets (the watch doesn’t count distance there), it is very unfortunate that lap button always give me zero times. There are also sets like 10×50m legs kicking where we need to control the time, but the watch doesn’t give that opportunity (until using the bug…which doesn’t even sound normal).

      Suunto Race S

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        pavel.samokha @Matthias Jäggli
        last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 11:51

        @Matthias-Jäggli I understand your frustration, feeling the same and it’s a known issue, which unfortunately has some technical reasons. We will work on fixing this, but it can take time and we still need to do the updates.

        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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          Maoris
          last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:14

          Hi,

          I have issues with HRV measurements. It started with the faulty update in 2024. I downgraded the firmware, but it didn’t really help. I was hoping the issue would be fixed with the newest update, but it wasn’t.

          The current firmware version: 2.40.38

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          After the firmware update, I reset the watch to factory settings, but this didn’t help either.

          Any suggestions?

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            Александр Даниленко @pavel.samokha
            last edited by 3 Apr 2025, 14:58

            @pavel.samokha

            People wrote about this, but I will also add.

            Sleep tracking and resources counting stopped on my Race S. HR sensors is working, calories are counting.

            It worked good until I rebooted the watch yesterday.

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            Suunto Race S

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              Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:36

              @Łukasz-Szmigiel
              Hello where can I get this view? Is it part of the app? Any additional software needed?
              Thanks

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                Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 07:37

                @Peter-Pan-0 which view are you referring to?

                S9PP 2.40.44

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                  Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                  last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 11:59

                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                  probably the view of your app 😉 with battery stats, etc…

                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                  Suunto Vertical all black
                  Wife : S9PP
                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @Peter Pan 0
                    last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:07

                    @Peter-Pan-0 check this out:

                    https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9249/sml-track-viewer-a-handy-little-tool-for-analysing-track-quality-and-battery-stats

                    S9PP 2.40.44

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                      Peter Pan 0 @Łukasz Szmigiel
                      last edited by 4 Apr 2025, 13:30

                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel Well done. TY

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                        matthinsh Bronze Member @Ars Vitae
                        last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 10:37

                        @Ars-Vitae said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                        What’s the difference between Running Track and Track Running?

                        Does anyone know the answer to this? Is the new Track Running sport mode like the modes on Coros and Garmin, where you can input the lane you’re in and it’ll record each lap really accurately?

                        This is very useful for track sessions.

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                          Mff73 @matthinsh
                          last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 11:44

                          @matthinsh
                          Maybe 😉

                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                          Suunto Vertical all black
                          Wife : S9PP
                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                            sky-runner Silver Members @mabe2k
                            last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 16:32

                            @mabe2k said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                            @sky-runner Also the arrow for the direction should be a little bit larger. I really like the fact, that it’s not longer full screen, but the current style is too small for my eyes. It’s really hard to see. Especially, if it appears a second before you have to turn.

                            Yes, fully agree. Most of the time I can’t tell what the next turn is supposed to be even if I manage to briefly see it.

                            Has there been any official response from the Suunto team with regards to the new navigation guidance? In my opinion, this change has been rushed in without a proper UX research and the overall user experience has become worse, and this is quite a bit less usable than it is used to be. Is there a plan to revisit this again? Please let us know!

                            Should we do a poll about the preferred navigation guidance?

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                              isazi Moderator @sky-runner
                              last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 16:56

                              @sky-runner as far as I know, there are more improvements to navigation planned.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                sky-runner Silver Members @isazi
                                last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 17:04

                                @isazi said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                @sky-runner as far as I know, there are more improvements to navigation planned.

                                Great to know that!

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                                  Devis
                                  last edited by 5 Apr 2025, 19:30

                                  Today I swam 1250m and the Race S tracked the total distance correctly (without push any buttons).
                                  I’ll see next time, but for now I’m happy with the 2.40.38 fw.
                                  Bye.

                                  Devis

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                                    martintrail Silver Members
                                    last edited by martintrail 19 days from now 6 Apr 2025, 05:18

                                    I have to say that my Vertical completely stopped discharging after the update. That’s power! Super job Suunto. 👏 The only change I made was to delete all the watch faces and keep only about 2 in the watch, but I guess that doesn’t affect it.

                                    Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                      matthinsh Bronze Member @Mff73
                                      last edited by 6 Apr 2025, 07:55

                                      @Mff73
                                      I guess that’s a no then 😂
                                      I have a refurbished race s that I was looking forward to getting back and wearing (FWIW, the service from Suunto was absolutely brilliant). But I’m now used to using a Garmin with track mode, and it’s so, so useful.
                                      Track mode, multiple HRM connections and an ohr that told me my actual hr during sleep rather than double are the 3 things I crave for in a Suunto.
                                      One day. Until then, I’ll stay conflicted 😐

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                                        Mff73 @matthinsh
                                        last edited by 6 Apr 2025, 12:37

                                        @matthinsh said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                        @Mff73
                                        I guess that’s a no then

                                        Maybe you guess wrongly 😂

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                          The_77 Silver Members @Mff73
                                          last edited by 6 Apr 2025, 12:40

                                          @Mff73 defo a no https://forum.suunto.com/post/164327

                                          Suunto Spartan Trainer Wrist HR / 9PP Refurb

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