Share your experience with the Suunto app here!

[zvonejan]

Where are data for:
ascent, descent, for one move or for monthly report for different actrivities (run, bike, hike, one click in movescount)
average pace speed for montly report, (one click in movescount)
distance in montly report for different actrivities (run, bike, hike, one click in movescount)
detailed data for just one part of the move (one click in movescount)

…and about 10 similar things.

Creating a track with heat maps is a nightmare. Heat maps are red and also track??? (blue in movescount). not to mention small screen

I have 4 tabs: training, steps, calories, sleep. How can I remove last 3. I Did not spend 700 eur to track *ucking calories, sleep and steps.
If I wanted that I would buy wristband for 29.99 usd.

I am selling my watch for 2 months now. Almost half price, nobody wants it. I am long time suunto user. 1983 moves. ambit2, ambit3, spartan, suunto9. 9000 km behind me for running and trail running. I know one thing: Suunto, never again

[freeheeler]

@Jaakers
seems that you question has not been answered.
For me it was the same in the first place, because I could login to Sports Tracker with my Suunto App credentials. BUT I’ve learned soon that ST and SA have nothing in common except they share the same data base. ST is NOT the web interface for SA. Activities from SA will be synced to ST and vice versa, but depending from where the data comes it lacks quality. If you sync Movescount data to ST you will notice a weak quality in SA. That’s why I started to sync my Ambit3 to MC app (that syncs automatically to MC web, as it is the same). Then I manually sync my activity to SA and force the SA to stopp as it would keep the connection to the watch and causes failure when you want to connect to MC app next time.

ST is not a simpler MC in my point of view. It is a very very basic list of activities and summary. But it has no elevation data at all and hence not useful for mountain athletes.

There’s a noticeable bunch of guys in this forum that are very looking forward for improvements on the SA and also for a web interface.

…and many many more features for analysis, comparison, statistics, Ambit settings etc…

[freeheeler]

@zvonejan
I agree with what you are missing. I miss this, too… desperately!! But I’m confident that Suunto will implement this… the elevation extension for Strava shows how it could look like.
I only bought a new A3 Peak Sapphire today as I am convinced Suunto will release an SA incl web interface that keeps up with Movescount.

[Piotrek Szczęsny]

App does not show vo2 max or any other fitness level tracking (besides EPOC).
My user experience with ambit 3R and movescount was way better than right now with Suunto 9 and Suunto App. I was hoping for big upgrade, and honestly I consider running with my trusty 3R instead of Suunto 9.

[Sidhe]

For some time I’ve received notifications in Movescount and SuuntoLink about migration to the Suunto App. Finally with some spare time I decided to take the plunge. Overall first impression was a confusion about the synchronizations and new accounts required:

1. I had to create a new SportsTracker account and use this to login to Suunto App.
2. SportsTracker Web interface is pretty useless and it doesn’t even show the correct sports profiles for the activities.
3. About the migration of my data from Movescount, the instruction says: “Ensure you have downloaded Suunto app and have notifications enabled to be notified when your Movescount exercise history import is available.” After waiting for an hour or two I’m still wondering if this import will be available later today, tomorrow, this month or next year? Additionally as I would like to use Movescount for the web interface and Suunto App for the phone, I’m not at all sure if all the activities which I sync to both services while waiting for the migration to happen will basically end up duplicated when I finally can do the actual migration.
4. All the routes have to be manually imported from Movescount to Suunto app.
5. Apparently I will still need Suuntolink for the firmware updates in the future as well.
6. For the feedback and upvote for the web interface I had to create an additional account for this forum (which is third account I seem to need for the Suunto ecosystem).
7. It seems that the weekly planner is also gone which is unfortunate.
8. It is very difficult to find out what is actually planned for the release in the future, just some vague promises about “listening to the community and going with agile development” which for the user is very confusing. Roadmap or information about the upcoming releases and new features in them would be nice.

I really hope that this migration process would have been easier: delete old application and download a new one and then select if I still want to synchronize to Movescount which should be automatically handled from the Suunto App. Now for the migration I had to read a good amount of descriptions and instructions which really does not give a good first impression about the application.

On a positive side, the new application looks promising. Hope it will fly and we will get a web interface as well. Unfortunately it seems to me that in the future the web interface and further analysis is kind of outsourced for the partners like TrainingPeaks and Strava and to be able to use their tools and my Suunto watch to full potential I will have to subscribe to TP premium or Strava Summit.

[A Former User]

@Sidhe said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:

It is very difficult to find out what is actually planned for the release in the future, just some vague promises about “listening to the community and going with agile development” which for the user is very confusing. Roadmap or information about the upcoming releases and new features in them would be nice.

I am not even sure Agile development is a positive thing here. None of the serious large software companies use Agile, and I’ve worked in two well known ones. I’ve heard from a friend, that Agile process has been a disaster for their company from engineers’ prospective, and is the reason the focus has shifted to shallow features, that are easy to finish quickly in short Agile sprints, and that any deep dive without quick results is now nearly impossible.

That is my 100% speculative opinion, and I may be wrong, but I have an impression that Agile has a similar effect on SA development - I see some busywork and trivial features being done, but nothing of substance that would require deep engineering changes.

[Arto Määttä]

I have Suunto Ambit 3 Sport and I have been using Movescount from the beginning. I tried Suunto App for several weeks. My first impression was that it lacked a lot of features that Movescount has. Syncing etc. has been working fine.

Planning and statistics are way worse in SA than in MC. Also what was a big (negative) surprise was that I cannot change the sports modes in my watch. Considering there can be only 10 of them in the watch, changing them is essential to me.

In short, it seems that SA is more like those health apps, like Samsung Healt or Google Fit, than an app for (semi)serious trainers.

I changed back to movescount now and will continue to use it until it is shut down. If SA doesn’t change considerably, my next watch will be some other brand - unfortunately, because I have liked my Ambit 3 a lot. I have now compared watches that have

• HR from the wrist
• possibility to use standalone HR belt
• sleep analysis
• stress and recovery estimation
• training planning and statistics
  Suunto has good watches but SA lacks so many features that it won’t be an option in current state.

[A Former User]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Hi Dimi, just a question regarding the development of Suunto App and/or firmware:

What possibilities do we really have?
Is it somehow “sugesstion with many upvotes will be developed” or is it more like “we follow our own roadmap”?

E.g. Structured intervals is I think one of the most upvoted features but now I must read that it is not planned in the near future. In the beginning, it looked like Sunnto/that forum really want to get to know what customers want, but for me (personel opinion! maybe I am wrong) this is not anymore. I am not complaining, don’t get me wrong. I am not a native speaker and maybe I do not find the correct words. But please try to convince me to believe in Suunto again…

Just my thoughts the last couple of days…

Best
Marcus

[cringram]

I mentioned this long ago but nothing seems to come of it. Please provide an option for users of Suunto App to have a more streamlined experience on the Diary page as can be had in Movescount. I don’t need the pictures to tell me it was a run/swim/trek…there are icons that do that just fine. I just want the data in a concise format!

Please…as a configurable option for those of us who don’t need the fluff.

[cringram]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos this ^^^^^^

[fhegnor]

@cringram said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:

I mentioned this long ago but nothing seems to come of it. Please provide an option for users of Suunto App to have a more streamlined experience on the Diary page as can be had in Movescount. I don’t need the pictures to tell me it was a run/swim/trek…there are icons that do that just fine. I just want the data in a concise format!

Please…as a configurable option for those of us who don’t need the fluff.

vote here, maybe that helps to but it higher on the agenda:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1427/collapsible-activities

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@moe67er I am not sure about the Structured intervals, since this forum is made for the app (as of now) and Structured intervals are a watch feature (as well) I cannot say something with confidence about it. Sorry

[Maryn]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Suunto can’t make a statement at last, will this feature appear or not?
Finally, someone has to know the answer to this question

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Maryn well why do they need to make a statement. Its a feature request for a feature that was never promised. They have better things todo I suppose no ?

[Bulkan]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:

@Maryn well why do they need to make a statement. Its a feature request for a feature that was never promised. They have better things todo I suppose no ?

Good apps for mobile and… maybe… apps in the watch will solve this.

At this point if we don´t have SI maybe we won´t get them… and know what… the simple intervals are enough for me… in the las two years I didn´t miss it… but I’m missing POI or apps…

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Bulkan @Maryn here is one thing I find amazing regarding this request.

Many of the Suunto users (i know them personally) have moved to Coros.
Coros does not offer Structured intervals.

The users that went to coros (yes I support their groups as well) do not mention anything there about Structured intervals or a web, but here they did so

[Maryn]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos You misunderstood me. From my point of view, I do not mind the lack of this function, when I bought a watch I knew about the lack of SI.
Ever since I can remember, people have been asking about the SI

For me, POI or fusedalti improvements are the most important at the moment - each user has different requirements.

[Bulkan]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:

@Bulkan @Maryn here is one thing I find amazing regarding this request.

Many of the Suunto users (i know them personally) have moved to Coros.
Coros does not offer Structured intervals.

The users that went to coros (yes I support their groups as well) do not mention anything there about Structured intervals or a web, but here they did so

so do I have to buy a coros to forget the SI?

I think is not the SI the thing is that the SI were and now are not. So the people gets frustrated.

But… maybe with apps… we could solve it.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Bulkan you mean about ambits right ? SI was not there for all others.

[Bulkan]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Share your experience with the Suunto app here!:

@Bulkan you mean about ambits right ? SI was not there for all others.

Yep, maybe the mental equivalence, Ambit 3 before = Suunto 9 baro now. And maybe is totally mistaken think like that but the lunch of the products were pretty similar. Rock solid watch for your outdoors adventures and multisport.