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    Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2)

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    • sky-runnerS Offline
      sky-runner Silver Members @pavel.samokha
      last edited by sky-runner

      Has anyone noticed map rendering regression after this software update?

      Previously I complained about trail visibility - that at 0.5 mile scale trails become very thin and at 1 mile scale trails completely disappear.

      Suunto’s answer to that? Now it is way worse!

      After the last update trails are visible only at the first 3 zoom levels - 100 feet, 200 feet, and 500 feet. At 500 feet scale trails become very thin and difficult to see and at 0.2 mile scale trails completely disappear. In fact, at 1 mile scale all local roads disappear too so that only major high speed roads are visible!

      This doesn’t make any sense!
      Has this even been tested by anyone who trail runs?

      I should probably make a separate post about this because this seems to me like major regression in functionality!

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        Kaiphi @Jordi C
        last edited by Kaiphi

        @Jordi-C Had the same problem on my vertical. Try to turn the button off and on again 24/7 at the bottom. Helped me

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        • Inge NallssonI Offline
          Inge Nallsson @Inge Nallsson
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          @Inge-Nallsson The 80K+ Steps were gone from both watch and SA once a new day had ticked over, so can be considered ‘phantom’. A bit disturbing, but harmless in the grand scheme of things:

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          Heart Rate graph and other sleep registrations were all OK during the night…

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          • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
            GiPFELKiND Silver Members @sky-runner
            last edited by GiPFELKiND

            @sky-runner PLEASE GIVE THE OPTION FOR DOWNGRADE 2.37.48 thats the best Firmware.
            Need it for Suunto Vertical Solar!!!

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            • EgikaE Offline
              Egika Platinum Member @Inge Nallsson
              last edited by

              @Inge-Nallsson as the .12 hofix was addressing steps, resources and sleep representation, it is likely that this was solved now. Or did it happen already with the 12?

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              • Inge NallssonI Offline
                Inge Nallsson @Egika
                last edited by

                @Egika said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

                did it happen already with the 12?

                These phantom steps came with a bootup on 2.43.12 But I have no idea if such a resource-less (no data/history) watch start exhibited the same error on previous FW versions.

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                • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                  GiPFELKiND Silver Members @GiPFELKiND
                  last edited by

                  @GiPFELKiND okay 2 likes for this 😜 @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @pavel.samokha Can someone share a link please with Firmware 2.37.48 😚 or private Message have a great weekend

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                  • PavlasP Offline
                    Pavlas @sky-runner
                    last edited by

                    @sky-runner I don’t understand the change either. I’ve mentioned it before. I found the maps beautifully clear. But now zooming in 100, 50 and 25 meters is very ugly and opaque. Especially in the city. It’s not too bad on the amoled display, but I don’t like it at all on the Vertical 😞

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                    • TieutieuT Offline
                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @Pavlas
                      last edited by

                      @Pavlas I agree under 100m it’s a bit ugly, but at 100m zoom and above, I find it much easier for guiding.

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                        MirkoP @pavel.samokha
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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                          last edited by

                          I find the new maps also strange. Asking for you why this happened and if we can do something in the meantime.

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sky-runner
                            last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

                            @sky-runner as usual I understand your frustrations but,

                            Remarks like : has anyone who does trail running tested this ?

                            They don’t belong here. I am sure it’s not intended.

                            Anyways I agree with you so we will get to the bottom of this.

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                            • Fenr1rF Offline
                              Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Could you also remind the map people (if such exist) about contour lines above 200m zoom for those areas still missing them, please?

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                              • EgikaE Offline
                                Egika Platinum Member @Fenr1r
                                last edited by

                                @Fenr1r rest assured, they are aware!

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                                  duffman19 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2):

                                  I find the new maps also strange. Asking for you why this happened and if we can do something in the meantime.

                                  This seems to be an issue with OSM tag priorities. I don’t recall exactly how they appeared before the update, but as @sky-runner said, the zoom level renderings definitely haven’t improved.

                                  On the current software, trails (footpaths, sidewalks, etc.) disappear at the 500m level. Service roads (driveways, parking lanes, alleyways, etc.) disappear at the 1.00km level. And residential roads disappear at the 2.00km level.

                                  I think this is backwards for an outdoor, trail-focused watch. I’d much rather be able to see trails at larger zoom distances than driveways and side streets. And contour lines as well.

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                                  • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Egika
                                    last edited by

                                    @Egika since 2 years 😭

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                                    • kriskusK Offline
                                      kriskus Bronze Member @Artus Diver
                                      last edited by

                                      @Artus-Diver (@ or anyone else swimming a lot) Can anyone who uses their watch for swimming confirm if there are any improvements to the swim distance / style detection algorithm? And how the swim drills app works?

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                                        Miroslava @kriskus
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                                        @kriskus @Artus-Diver
                                        I’m also very interested in this, as I won’t be able to get into the pool until next week. I’m mainly interested in whether it calculates the pool lengths correctly breastrokes. Ďakujeme

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