Software Update 2.43.8/.12 (2025 Q2)
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@JANTIKAINEN Agreed that changeable periphery would be ideal. But we can come a long way with just one simple data field. For example, in a ‘sports mode’ specifically tailored for long endurance runs I would place a “Zonesense an-aerobic” field next to my ‘HeartRate’ field. That’s enough! As long as my RPE is 2-3 on a scale of 10, my HR where I would like it and the ZS field doesn’t start to accumulate time, then I’m fine. If ZS racks up numbers I change effort however possible - relaxing bodyareas, slowing pace, walking etc.
Tomorrow I will do repetitions (Pace based) slightly below the upper Lactate Threshold (LT2). For that I’ll use just a “Zonesense vo2max” field amongst the others. Same priciple there. Preferable that no time gets registered in that field.
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Just returned from bike, Zone sense app on Race watch shows red VO2Max all the time! In app after syncing it’s ok.
Moving from Garmin F7Pro doesn’t help me lot
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@Александр-Даниленко said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
@brettacher said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
Still no native multisport modes apart of triathlon. This is a pity, as it basically makes the watch unusable for sports like duathlon, swim-run, etc., because transitions are lost and it is dangerous to mess around with the watch while competing.
You can hold upper button during some activity to turn on another activity. This will be a multisport.
I tried that once during the transition from bike to run in a Duathlon (run-bike-run). You have to look at the watch, press the upper button until the list of sports appears, then try to find the correct sport mode with the crown or by swiping, then press the crown or tap the display, then verify that the sport mode has been started correctly. All of that while continuing to ride your bike, trying not to miss the line where you have to dismount the bike, hoping that the watch will react before you reach the line, because you cannot brake, dismount the bike and start running one-handed, because you are operating the watch with the other hand. And all that while trying to avoid hitting competitors in front of you, trying not to get overrun by competitors coming up behind you and all of that trying not to fall off the bike while braking with only one hand on the handlebar. I think you understand what I’m trying to say.
I will not try that again, ever, because it’s just too dangerous. And did I mention that you lose the transitions that way?
With the native triathlon mode or any simple Garmin or Polar watch, you just press a button --> transition mode --> press the same button --> next sport mode. Easy, no dangerous fumbling around with the watch etc.
And the Race I’m using has more than enough CPU power and RAM to provide native multisport modes. That we have a tri mode proves it. It’s just lame from Suunto’s side to not implement that.
Not sure though if it indicates transition times.
Nope. They are lost.
Also, as far as I remember, there is “SwimRun” app in Suunto Plus.
Yes, there is also a Duathlon app. But it’s just guessing what is happening according to some sensor measurements, which it may correclty interpret or not. You never know what’s happening. I’ve tested the Duathlon mode several times in training, and it never gets the transitions correctly, which is no surprise, because most of the transitions consist of running. How should it distinguish that from “real” running?
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@pavel.samokha Is there a description of all the fields anywhere. Some of them are not self-descriptive enough. For example, how the rest time is determined? How it is different from the stop time? What is the threshold for determining the moving time?
Also, while we are there, having more fields is great, but we still have only 3 data screens. I’ve been adding some S+ apps just because they give me 4th and 5th data screens. Generally I don’t use more than 3 or 4 fields per data screens because I can’t see them well.
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Is “Total time” same as “duration” ?
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After the last update, I have a problem with manual laps. They are registered correctly (can see them after the run), but are not shown in the laps section while running (there is only one lap shown there).
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@Antoine said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
Is “Total time” same as “duration” ?
No. The old “Duration” value only reflects ‘un-paused’ time and with the new additions is equal to “Moving time” plus “Rest time”. “Total time” really means everything, paused or un-paused.
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@Łukasz-Szmigiel not available either on my wife’s S9pp, and the update page on Suunto website don’t mention this update for S9pp so far
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I think I’ve discovered a bug.
- I start the navigation according to the route I have saved (only navigation, without starting the exercise)
- I select a different route during navigation
- The watch restarts and the error B7bcce-1df73.3d470175.82 appears
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@Tieutieu delayed slightly for S9PP, should come soon
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@isazi What about Ocean? We haven’t had an update since December last year.
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@marbjo Ocean is on a different schedule, it will also come, but I’d say don’t expect more than 2 updates per year for Ocean, while the other watches gets 4
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I see on Joaquims vid that the altitude profile finally has colours matching the climb guidance, after being shown that way in the press release a year ago, if anyone can confirm?
Also would like to know if the bugs with track running are fixed, namely not being able to follow a structured interval session. I’d check but 9PP hasn’t got the update yet.
Lastly, would still like the gradient to make it into the native sports data field list in addition to all the other ones here. My Edge 500 did that after all.
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@Francesco-Pagano said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
Does anyone know if this bug was fixed?
Can someone please confirm if this manual interval issue has been fixed? I’m ready to buy a Suunto Race, but this problem is putting me off.
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@The_77 yes climb info/graph is colored now. Pretty cool.
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@Inge-Nallsson said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
No. The old “Duration” value only reflects ‘un-paused’ time and with the new additions is equal to “Moving time” plus “Rest time”. “Total time” really means everything, paused or un-paused.
I really don’t like this. Personally I’d never ever pause my watch during an endurance event or even a training run because it is way too easy to forget to unpause it. The same applies to auto-pause that simply doesn’t work reliably on a steep terrain. Also, having pauses messes up.with some 3rd party services like Strava. Strava does change the way it interprets the data depending on whether there are pauses or not.
If Suunto wants to surface Rest time, that should not rely on pausing and unpausing. When a watch is paused, nothing else is recorded, including the distance. If I move during a rest, I think that should still count towards the distance.
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@timecode said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
climb info/graph is colored now. Pretty cool.
Now we need an ability to arbitrarily zoom and pan that graph. What you show in your screenshot looks great for a short 5-10km run, but it would be much less useful for a 100km race.
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@sky-runner I agree, that would be very useful. You can still zoom “into” the section you’re actually on, but not the whole graph, true.
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@sky-runner you have the choice to use either as far as I can tell. It isn’t either or just another option on custom data fields.
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@sky-runner said in Software Update 2.43.8 (2025 Q2):
If Suunto wants to surface Rest time, that should not rely on pausing and unpausing. When a watch is paused, nothing else is recorded, including the distance. If I move during a rest, I think that should still count towards the distance
I understood the preceding paragraph about you never wanting to pause the watch during training or race, and that is a valid preference. But the quoted paragraph I simply can not wrap my head around. Rest and Moving time has nothing to do with Pausing (pressing the upper button on a Race or Race S). If you stand still, the time is logged as Rest. When you move, the Moving time bucket starts to fill again - with Distance as normal. All automatic.
I looked back at older runs I’ve made, and those where I had made an un-paused stop now show both Moving and Rest times. Those with watch pauses also have the Paused times logged and an additional Total time added to reflect this situation. It’s all very simple and logic if you think about it. ‘Unstopped’ runs, whether by watch pauses or physical body stillness, only show the normal Duration time.
Edit: Runs with “Moving time” now also show a “Moving pace” entry in the SA, in addition to the normal “Avg pace” for the whole time period. I think this is new…