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      Angusmil
      last edited by Angusmil

      Hi everybody!!

      I bought this watch for freediving and scuba diving. But I do many spots, in wing, kite and sailing the measurements like heart rate or ascension are not important then it works ok.

      Buuuuut in Backcountry skiing, the measurements said that I can do a olimpic race, and obviously I’m not as good. The big problem is: when you stop to take a rest the meters of ascension continue counting. Also the heart rate is so bad.

      I put some some pictures. 1800m ascension, for me is completely impossible… Heart rate in the first level the 96% of the time jajajajjaja.

      https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZivd3ZItrQWJvnpRm34mzi6oPEYfQ1Er8X

      https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZovd3Z5FyiWTgVj7F0LDO0iXNlXmI8DDQk

      I can put more activities of Backcountry skiing in the same way.

      Well, another problem with this watch… Still waiting for the freediving improvements…

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        larrybbaker @Angusmil
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        @Angusmil any activity where you are moving/tensing/flexing the arm is going to be an issue for OHR. Get a chest strap if it’s important. Just like cycling or weightlifting.

        Vertical Ti Solar
        Race 2
        iPhone 17 Pro

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Angusmil
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          @Angusmil Your barometric sensor may be dirty. I have no issues with the sensor unless there are very, very strong winds.

          Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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            Angusmil
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            Hi, thanks for the advice. I tried cleaning the watch, but yesterday the same thing happened with the barometer. When I reached the top of the mountain, it showed that I had descended 400 meters — completely wrong.

            Do you know exactly where the sensor is located and how to clean it properly? Otherwise, I’ll contact customer support, since it’s less than two years old.

            Regarding heart rate, apart from cycling and e-sports, what are all the heart-rate-based apps and features supposed to be for if the watch itself doesn’t work properly? How can I do a proper running workout if I can’t rely on the heart rate data? Many times I’m pushing hard uphill and it shows 130 bpm — and I’m definitely not that fit.

            Maybe my sensors are damaged… I’ve tried doing a soft reset, but it’s still the same.

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Angusmil
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              @Angusmil said in In Backcountry skiing it sucks!!!:

              Hi, thanks for the advice. I tried cleaning the watch, but yesterday the same thing happened with the barometer. When I reached the top of the mountain, it showed that I had descended 400 meters — completely wrong.

              Do you know exactly where the sensor is located and how to clean it properly? Otherwise, I’ll contact customer support, since it’s less than two years old.

              Regarding heart rate, apart from cycling and e-sports, what are all the heart-rate-based apps and features supposed to be for if the watch itself doesn’t work properly? How can I do a proper running workout if I can’t rely on the heart rate data? Many times I’m pushing hard uphill and it shows 130 bpm — and I’m definitely not that fit.

              Maybe my sensors are damaged… I’ve tried doing a soft reset, but it’s still the same.

              It is probably worth contacting support (open a ticket). This version of the OHR module has never worked well for me and the watch is quite heavy. OHR is fine for walking/sitting/sleeping for me but not exercising. If you care about HR I would purchase a chest strap. I rarely use OHR even though on the Vertical2/Race2 it is far better and works for many exercises for me.

              Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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                Nandodiver @Angusmil
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                @Angusmil Max Heart rate is 220 - minus your age

                whats the resting HR the watch shows ?

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Nandodiver
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                  @Nandodiver said in In Backcountry skiing it sucks!!!:

                  @Angusmil Max Heart rate is 220 - minus your age

                  whats the resting HR the watch shows ?

                  That is a very poor method for max HR. Highly unreliable.

                  Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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                    Nandodiver @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Brad_Olwin 220 minus age that’s the official method largely used for more than 30 years

                    More recently in 2023 some endurance athletes start using the “Nes formula”

                    220 minus age: 220 - 60 = 160 bpm
                    Nes formula: 211 - (0.64 × 60) = 211 - 38.4 ≈ 173 bpm

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Nandodiver
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                      @Nandodiver said in In Backcountry skiing it sucks!!!:

                      @Brad_Olwin 220 minus age that’s the official method largely used for more than 30 years

                      More recently in 2023 some endurance athletes start using the “Nes formula”

                      220 minus age: 220 - 60 = 160 bpm
                      Nes formula: 211 - (0.64 × 60) = 211 - 38.4 ≈ 173 bpm

                      Most of those formulas are poor, it does not matter how long they have been used. Typically the subjects the formulas are based on are sedentary or do not exercise much. Second, max HR is highly genetically determined and variable. For me the formulas give numbers that would severely negatively impact my training. Max HR should be determined by training if possible. There have been many posts here and I see on Apple forums where individuals are exercising for 60 min or more in Z5.

                      Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti

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