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    Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?

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      Stavrogin @aiv4r
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      @aiv4r I would love to see the sales on the Apex 4. I am curious how a MIP screen is selling at that price point. The Pace 3 and the Nomad are budget so I am not sure they could be compared.

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        MiniForklift Platinum Member
        last edited by

        I haven’t read through this whole thread but I’m not a fan of AMOLED, hence why I’ve not upgraded my original Vertical. IMO there’s absolutely nothing wrong with MIP and hopefully we will always have an alternative to the eye-burner that is AMOLED

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          freeheeler
          last edited by

          oooh yes, the lock in watch mode! 👍

          yes it would be nice to have the update on V1. I can definitely do very good without labels on the map, but the rest would be nice to have.
          honestly I can also live with what we have 🙂

          living sideways

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            snow* @Stavrogin
            last edited by

            @Stavrogin can’t speak to sales, but the A4 MIP is really darn good

            Race S Ti.

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              Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
              last edited by Tieutieu

              @freeheeler climb v3 update on SV1 would make me happy, that’s the only thing I would need to make my SV1 almost perfect ; actually climb v2 has some big cons. Not sure labels on maps would be readable (it’s a step forward on my SRs, mainly for altitude lines ; for the rest it’s not enough to be a game changer for now, there is not so many place names for instance, neither street/road names).

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                freeheeler @Tieutieu
                last edited by

                @Tieutieu
                do you mean the S+ climb app?

                living sideways

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                  Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
                  last edited by

                  @freeheeler nope I mean climb guidance

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                    pilleus
                    last edited by pilleus

                    Found on Reddit

                    A Garmin survey about the wish to have a MIP display instead of an AMOLED.

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                      sky-runner Platinum Member @Ecki D.
                      last edited by sky-runner

                      MicroLED would be the best alternative in the long term, but not now when MicroLED displays are still very expensive and prioritized for their extreme brightness rather than economy.

                      MicoroLED displays have a very broad range of brightness and don’t suffer from burn-in, so they could be used in always on mode without a risk of damage while being more energy efficient than AMOLED. But the technology isn’t fully there yet.

                      Suunto: Ambit, Ambit 3 Peak, 9 Baro, Race S, Race Ti, Vertical 2 Ti
                      Garmin: Forerunner 210, Forerunner 610, Fenix 6X, Fenix 7X Ti

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                        Tomas5 Gold Members @sky-runner
                        last edited by Tomas5

                        @sky-runner apple started using tamdem oled in some devices , it is two panel stack on each other. It provides higher brightness and each panel is not so bright by itself so it prevent burn in. But it must be expensive as you need two panels. And not sure about power consumption. But best part of MIP is low power consumption.

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @Tomas5
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                          @Tomas5 best part of MIP is its transreflective part. Meaning - it looks better when the light is shined on it, like in full sunlight. It doesn’t have to emit light to counter the brightness of the sunny day as the amoled has to.

                          Amoled is cool for smartwatches with rich interfaces, but to me - a sports watch should be a low key augmentation of a workout or outdoors experience.

                          I’m doing sports for the sake of sports or being outside. I don’t need 16 million colors histograms or graphs glaring in my eyes.

                          But yeah. I get it that the mighty market requires amoled.

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