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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    freeheeler @pilleus
    last edited by freeheeler 11 Jan 2019, 22:57 1 Nov 2019, 22:54

    @pilleus
    but when I checked A3R vs A3PS they also differ… it’s hard to quantify but it is a measuring system and it has tolerance. That’s my point of view.

    here are two tracks of the same skitour, both with A3PS… first how it should be, second when recording is crap… even A3PS hast its weak days

    Screenshot_20191101-235212.png

    Screenshot_20191101-235111.png

    edit: if you follow the second track you’ll fall over a not insignificant cliff…

    living sideways

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      freeheeler
      last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 20:43

      here another comparison of 3 circles in my backyard

      https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/Z3fjts8jvu1Dafbn6g1b

      living sideways

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        zhang965 @freeheeler
        last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 21:29

        @TELE-HO your backyard looks like a dildo???

        Winners Wear Winners

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          freeheeler @zhang965
          last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 21:35

          @zhang965
          😂
          yes that’s what’s left after they built some roads and houses 😉

          living sideways

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            sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
            last edited by sartoric 11 Jun 2019, 21:54 6 Nov 2019, 21:54

            @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

            @zhang965
            😂
            yes that’s what’s left after they built some roads and houses 😉

            Well, I guess it’s not funny to have a dildo in you backyard

            😁

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              freeheeler @sartoric
              last edited by 6 Nov 2019, 22:13

              @sartoric
              … and I tell my kids not to draw stupid things with chalk on the streets… 😉

              living sideways

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                Fenr1r @freeheeler
                last edited by Fenr1r 11 Jun 2019, 23:06 6 Nov 2019, 23:02

                @TELE-HO My theology is a bit rusty but if drawing, carving and/or gardening giant wangs is supposed to appeal to gods of fertility, what does outlining a massive vibrator get you?

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                  freeheeler @Fenr1r
                  last edited by 7 Nov 2019, 05:09

                  @Fenr1r
                  I didn’t do this for myself but for others in need as I am a giving person 😉

                  living sideways

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                    Fenr1r @freeheeler
                    last edited by Fenr1r 11 Jul 2019, 13:02 7 Nov 2019, 13:02

                    @TELE-HO Bravo. And as you give, so should you receive. What goes around, comes around. Etc.

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                      freeheeler @Fenr1r
                      last edited by 7 Nov 2019, 13:12

                      @Fenr1r 🙈

                      living sideways

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                        freeheeler
                        last edited by freeheeler 11 Sept 2019, 12:02 9 Nov 2019, 12:01

                        here’s another comparison of S9B vs A3PS with same settings. This time the chest strap was connected to A3PS and OHR was used with S9B to check for differences between the two types of HR measuring.
                        At home I’ve changed manually by purpose the altitude to the wrong value of around 650m in both watches to check what they do with FusedAlti.
                        S9B got a start alti of 481m, A3PS has 472m. The total ascent of S9B was 146m and A3PS 159m.
                        Swiss Topo Map shows at my start point 472m.
                        The alti profile of both recordings look similar, and the offset from start is constant throughout the activities. I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent. Does it measure the alti more often?! A3PS looks much “smoother”.
                        Distance S9B: 7.74km, A3PS: 7.79m.
                        Between km 3 and 4 I purposely went once around a big tree… S9B did not recognize this circle, A3PS did.

                        The HR graph in my opinion is differing, too. But for me it’s good enough. In general I will use the strap anyway, because of less battery consumption and better measuring precision. I noticed that S9B was often a bit higher and took longer time to show lower HR values when the trail changed from up to downhill.

                        It’s interesting to see these differences… BUT I must say that I would believe both.
                        The start altitude of A3PS nailed it… could be coincidence or pure precision 👍

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                        living sideways

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                          Fenr1r @freeheeler
                          last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 20:07

                          @TELE-HO The tree was a nice touch. Interesting.

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                            A Former User @freeheeler
                            last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 21:12

                            @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                            I don’t know why S9B shows a more nervous graph but still has less meters total ascent

                            Thanks! That is a good comparison!

                            One reason why S9B may have a more nervous graph is that it logs elevation every 1 second vs 10 seconds for A3P. But that still doesn’t help with more accurate total ascent.

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                              freeheeler @Guest
                              last edited by 9 Nov 2019, 21:23

                              @silentvoyager said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              very 1 second vs 10 seconds

                              I suspected this but I’ve had something in memory that it is not adjustable anymore because 10sec would make more sense… but I obviously recall this wrong…

                              living sideways

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                              • cosme.costaC Offline
                                cosme.costa
                                last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 08:53

                                After one week with the S9 baro, and comparing it to the SSU:

                                Pros:

                                • Battery life/Battery modes
                                • OHR (for who uses it)
                                • Better tracks
                                • Firstbeat stuff (for who uses it)
                                • Nicer (personal opinion)
                                • Buttons (I feel them more robust)

                                Cons:

                                • GPS lock is extremely slow comparing to the SSU, even with the AGPS updated. I mean, with the SSU and an updated AGPS the lock is done in less than 10 seconds, with the S9 I have needed 30 seconds, and today more than 5 minutes with the AGPS up to date. All this, checking in the same spot. I need more activities to see if its the normal behavior.
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                                • isaziI Offline
                                  isazi Moderator @cosme.costa
                                  last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 08:56

                                  @cosmecosta doesn’t seem normal, mine gets the green GPS light in seconds, unless I’m moving to a complete different location.

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                                    sartoric Moderator @cosme.costa
                                    last edited by sartoric 22 Nov 2019, 09:10

                                    @cosmecosta
                                    Afair the GPS lock is slower the firs times

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                                    • cosme.costaC Offline
                                      cosme.costa
                                      last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 09:31

                                      @isazi and @sartoric Well, maybe is something punctual, today when I finished my run I tried again run and got the green arrow within the normal time (as I use to have with the SSU). As I said, I need more activities to have it more clear, but my feeling, after one week, is that it is slower.

                                      I’m not worried, at least yet.

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                        last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 10:07

                                        after each reboot or FW update the GPS will take more time to lock.

                                        Indeed it can up to 3mins imo but all the rest is less 10s

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                                          BKtoo Bronze Member
                                          last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 14:10

                                          I love my Suunto 9 baro. Have owned both T6, Ambit and Ambit 3 peak. But after a few days of use and some clarifying questions here on the forum, the Suunto 9 baro and the new Suunto app have set a new standard.
                                          The only thing I now want is an overview of time spent in different HR zones for the week, month and year, in the app🙏🙏

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