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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    BKtoo Bronze Member
    last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 14:10

    I love my Suunto 9 baro. Have owned both T6, Ambit and Ambit 3 peak. But after a few days of use and some clarifying questions here on the forum, the Suunto 9 baro and the new Suunto app have set a new standard.
    The only thing I now want is an overview of time spent in different HR zones for the week, month and year, in the app🙏🙏

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      Saketo Nemo Moderator
      last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 14:35

      nice to read positive feedback from old users, like me. Even for me suunto 9 and suunto app are a great match and can only improve. We look forward to the update with the MC style views and the one where we’ll be able to manage waypoints and POIs

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        freeheeler @Saketo Nemo
        last edited by freeheeler 22 Nov 2019, 14:48

        @Saketo-Nemo
        yes, S9B is almost perfect, while SA has a bit more room for improvement, but for me QS compensates the lack of SA (and SA web end).

        Most of you might have seen that I’ve started a summary list of further FW improvements for S9B… here’s the link, just in case you’re interested or want to add something

        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/3473/future-s9-firmware-wishlist-summary

        living sideways

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          BKtoo Bronze Member @freeheeler
          last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 15:51

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            azeanic
            last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 16:32

            The first time after the FW update, it took a long time. But subsequently, I find the GPS locks much quicker than pre-FW update.

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              Saketo Nemo Moderator @azeanic
              last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 16:37

              @azeanic
              the same for me and, I think, the same for all. fw update note says it 😉

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @cosme.costa
                last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 19:30

                @cosmecosta Something wrong there, mine locks faster than my A3P used to, within 1 to 3 sec.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  cosme.costa
                  last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 19:44

                  Thanks to all. I did some test this afternoon and the GPS lock was within 10 or less seconds. I guess I had something wrong with the previous AGPS, and after today’s run it was fixed.

                  Again, thanks to all!!

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                    freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 19:49

                    @Brad_Olwin
                    I think your watch is used to being connected rather than disconnected 😉
                    I did not count seconds with my watch but it is pretty fast.

                    living sideways

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                      freeheeler
                      last edited by freeheeler 12 Jul 2019, 15:21 7 Dec 2019, 15:20

                      here’s another comparison…
                      I personally think FusedAlti has improved. I haven’t adjusted either watch before the run. Both watches for best comparison in performance mode, GPS only.
                      I’ve lost satellite connection on S9B sometimes between km 3 and 4.
                      The pace on S9B sometimes was way off reality as I see in the graph.
                      The total ascent on S9B is more than on A3PS, I did not expect this as it was once closer. But there are so many things effecting this…

                      What disappoints me is the route planner of SA. The precision of total ascent was to the meter in the last test I did. This time it’s significantly off.

                      https://quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/nP1QcfFBG1dMSjv0WwTn

                      Screenshot_20191207-092739.png

                      living sideways

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                        Rob33 Bronze Member
                        last edited by 7 Dec 2019, 15:53

                        New user of the 9 baro (I come from SSU).
                        adjustment gps performance, output enduranceavec constant pace
                        First impressions:
                        -trace gps OK but not extraordinary. better with gps + galileo?
                        -distance OK
                        -altitude: calibration done before leaving (10 min) but erratic altitude, 55 m instead of 44
                        -FC HR: disappointment! (I’m used to the cardio polar belt) start indications 100% FCM, rhythm ebdurance: large variations sudden enough +/- 10 pulsations
                        I read that it was necessary to put the watch high enough on the handle but it tends to slip. Also that the pils could pose problems. What are you doing? and do you have solutions / habits to improve use?

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                          freeheeler @Rob33
                          last edited by 8 Dec 2019, 19:07

                          @Rob33
                          OHR (I guess? optical HR on the wrist?) is a difficult topic.
                          I would use a chest strap if you care about precise HR data. It even saves some more battery 👍

                          @all
                          I went paddling with my surfboard in the lake today and saw that my total ascent is 33m… I must say that there were no waves and the lake does not have sooo many hills… what did I do wrong in the sport mode setup that the activity “standup paddling” counts alti? (I use this for SUP and surfpaddling on the lake)

                          living sideways

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                            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                            last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 01:19

                            @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

                            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                            Blog: isazi's home

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                              A Former User @isazi
                              last edited by A Former User 12 Sept 2019, 02:52 9 Dec 2019, 02:51

                              @isazi said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

                              By why did Suunto eliminate barometer profiles? In Movescount any water sport would be setup with Baro profile, and that means that pressure changes would be treated as pressure changes and not as altitude. Also FusedAlti shouldn’t affect total ascent for any indoor or water sport. Suunto keeps simplifying things, but these simplifications don’t always make sense.

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                                isazi Moderator @Guest
                                last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 05:10

                                @silentvoyager but water sports may need the altimeter, e.g. for white water or simply river kayaking.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  freeheeler @isazi
                                  last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 05:52

                                  @isazi
                                  but paddling by hand changes pressure, hence alti by submerging the sensor with any stroke…
                                  I once setup my A3PS incorrect and dud some fantastic 15’000m ascent on the lake 😂
                                  this could now be possible wirh S9B by default abd obviously no chance to change?

                                  https://beta.quantified-self.io/user/jBm0qOhihUMykVYD8HBJMshQrJc2/event/3cPQA91MbTn2CvY9mwJSDwhqum5pS4RDjUpcM6Nw7kBtCDi

                                  living sideways

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                                    surfboomerang @freeheeler
                                    last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 06:11

                                    @TELE-HO
                                    This is exactly what is missing in the new watch line from Suunto: Choices.

                                    Different people, different sports, different needs.
                                    Everyone has its own set of datafields and setting for their sports. The only thing Suunto has to do is to give me the choice of selecting a certain settings and data field so I can combine them to a setup that is useful to me. Another person could have a whole other setup for the same sport because it is useful to him.

                                    Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                                    OnePlus Nord 4

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                                      isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 06:57

                                      @TELE-HO I try to not get my hands under the water when paddling 🙂

                                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                      Blog: isazi's home

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                                        isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 07:00

                                        @TELE-HO BTW those almost instantaneous 10 meters drops (or raises) are strange. And I just mean strange to be happening in the real world on a lake 🙂

                                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          freeheeler @isazi
                                          last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 07:20

                                          @isazi
                                          my assumption is that the sensor measures pressure change and FusedAlti says: no not possible and tries to correct it… but I’m not sure if FusedAlti is reacting that quick?

                                          I’m 100% with @surfboomerang the watch must be more customizable… also a gym workout with ascent is not really what I want to see… yes I do jump lunges… but not that high…

                                          living sideways

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