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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    freeheeler @Rob33
    last edited by 8 Dec 2019, 19:07

    @Rob33
    OHR (I guess? optical HR on the wrist?) is a difficult topic.
    I would use a chest strap if you care about precise HR data. It even saves some more battery 👍

    @all
    I went paddling with my surfboard in the lake today and saw that my total ascent is 33m… I must say that there were no waves and the lake does not have sooo many hills… what did I do wrong in the sport mode setup that the activity “standup paddling” counts alti? (I use this for SUP and surfpaddling on the lake)

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      isazi Moderator @freeheeler
      last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 01:19

      @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

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        A Former User @isazi
        last edited by A Former User 12 Sept 2019, 02:52 9 Dec 2019, 02:51

        @isazi said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        @TELE-HO I have ascent and descent kayaking in lakes with both Garmin and Suunto watches. Could be the weather, or maybe you had calibration with Fusedalti during the activity. Can we see the alti profile?

        By why did Suunto eliminate barometer profiles? In Movescount any water sport would be setup with Baro profile, and that means that pressure changes would be treated as pressure changes and not as altitude. Also FusedAlti shouldn’t affect total ascent for any indoor or water sport. Suunto keeps simplifying things, but these simplifications don’t always make sense.

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          isazi Moderator @Guest
          last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 05:10

          @silentvoyager but water sports may need the altimeter, e.g. for white water or simply river kayaking.

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            freeheeler @isazi
            last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 05:52

            @isazi
            but paddling by hand changes pressure, hence alti by submerging the sensor with any stroke…
            I once setup my A3PS incorrect and dud some fantastic 15’000m ascent on the lake 😂
            this could now be possible wirh S9B by default abd obviously no chance to change?

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              surfboomerang @freeheeler
              last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 06:11

              @TELE-HO
              This is exactly what is missing in the new watch line from Suunto: Choices.

              Different people, different sports, different needs.
              Everyone has its own set of datafields and setting for their sports. The only thing Suunto has to do is to give me the choice of selecting a certain settings and data field so I can combine them to a setup that is useful to me. Another person could have a whole other setup for the same sport because it is useful to him.

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                isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 06:57

                @TELE-HO I try to not get my hands under the water when paddling 🙂

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                  isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                  last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 07:00

                  @TELE-HO BTW those almost instantaneous 10 meters drops (or raises) are strange. And I just mean strange to be happening in the real world on a lake 🙂

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                    freeheeler @isazi
                    last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 07:20

                    @isazi
                    my assumption is that the sensor measures pressure change and FusedAlti says: no not possible and tries to correct it… but I’m not sure if FusedAlti is reacting that quick?

                    I’m 100% with @surfboomerang the watch must be more customizable… also a gym workout with ascent is not really what I want to see… yes I do jump lunges… but not that high…

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                      isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                      last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:07

                      @TELE-HO for the gym workout, just make your own activity and remove all the fields related to speed and movement. It’ll work.

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                        freeheeler @isazi
                        last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:14

                        @isazi
                        you mean custom activity?
                        I don’t record gym workouts frequently… on Sunday I did… but more because of testing the OHR once again.

                        Let’s hope Suunto gives us more customization on the sport modes. I don’t go paddling in the lake so often… and for surfing (let’s call it surfing when I try to catch some green and immediately end up in the washingmachine 😉 ) I never use my watch. It is a minor issue for me… but I don’t know how swimmers handle this? Do they get the result:
                        1’000m distance swim while 500m swim-ascent?

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                          isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                          last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:18

                          @TELE-HO yeah meant custom activity. Would be really nice being able to customize also default activities, but custom activities are already a very good workaround (they’re more than a workaround, but a workaround for this specific issue).

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                            freeheeler @isazi
                            last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:21

                            @isazi
                            this means for synced 3rd parties that I need to change the activity there manually?
                            I think I’ll give this a try, thank you 👍

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                              isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                              last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:24

                              @TELE-HO customisation begins with a base activity, and the type is derived from that. I made only one customised activity for indoor climbing and Strava and QS both see it as climbing.

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                                freeheeler @isazi
                                last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:42

                                @isazi
                                just looked into it and of course I have all my sport modes customized. Or did I get it wrong now?
                                I have selected the screens I want and the datafields as I want… that’s what you mean by custom activity?
                                Because the only fields I have for e.g. SUP are: distance, duration, avg speed, speed, max speed… but after the activity it shows ascent in meters and the comment HR reading was not optimal (I’ve put the watch over my wetsuit…)
                                And for gym workouts I use the customized activity cross fit with PTE, duration, avg HR, HR and % of max HR
                                …I think I miss something here… thanks for your help!

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                                  isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                                  last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:53

                                  @TELE-HO using MC or SA? I’m not sure if there’s a difference. I just used this trick for indoor climbing and other people found it was working for them too. There are one or two other threads about it.

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                                    freeheeler @isazi
                                    last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 09:55

                                    @isazi
                                    yes, I know, I saw them recently.
                                    strange…
                                    I’m using only SA (in combo with QS)

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                                      isazi Moderator @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 10:33

                                      @TELE-HO now that I think about it, I also use the standard “strength” and “yoga” activities and they also don’t register any distance nor ascent/descent.

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                                        freeheeler @isazi
                                        last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 11:13

                                        @isazi
                                        then it seems there’s room for improvement… not all outdoor activities require GPS and/or altitude

                                        living sideways

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                                          freeheeler @isazi
                                          last edited by 9 Dec 2019, 12:51

                                          @isazi
                                          I just noticed that Suunto has no problems with this as SA does not show an ascent value for e.g. SUP…
                                          and SA has no annual total ascent or something like that… since I mainly check my activities in QS, this issue comes to the surface. I have now manually corrected it in QS… so to say reasonable cheating for good.

                                          living sideways

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