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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    Brad_Olwin Moderator
    last edited by 28 May 2020, 16:51

    @Jonathan-Schwarz @MiniForklift @TELE-HO I too think the start menu is way overly complicated and I have been telling Suunto this every possibility I have. So have other testers. We are there with you. Hopefully Suunto will do something to change that, I just don’t know how difficult those changes are to implement. I suspect they are not trivial.

    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      MiniForklift Platinum Member @freeheeler
      last edited by 28 May 2020, 22:06

      @TELE-HO No chest strap, I don’t use any HR. Notice that it’s always searching for it when I’m waiting to start an exercise - maybe there’s somewhere in the watch settings where I can completely turn of HR during exercise?

      SV Titanium Solar Forest

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        freeheeler @MiniForklift
        last edited by 28 May 2020, 22:18

        @MiniForklift
        no there is no default setting afaik… it would oversteer the startmenu setting or at least have a conflict.

        @Brad_Olwin
        …my bet: about one year from now 😉
        and it would be trivial, but let’s pretend it is not 😉

        living sideways

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          Saketo Nemo Moderator @isazi
          last edited by 29 May 2020, 08:07

          @isazi
          Sure? it seems to me that since the last update we can, but I have to try. Not surprisingly, if I’m not mistaken, from the settings you can choose both to use the belt and to activate the whr.
          obviously in default it goes on belt, but if it loses the connection now, by activating the appropriate flag, it changes to whr.
          It seems to me that it was a function present in a Coros watch and required in this forum.
          But again, I could be wrong. My memory is not so strong

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            Maryn Silver Members @Saketo Nemo
            last edited by 29 May 2020, 08:08

            @Saketo-Nemo this would be nice for longer runs for some user which are using for example polar oh1

            Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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              isazi Moderator @Saketo Nemo
              last edited by 29 May 2020, 10:40

              @Saketo-Nemo would be terrible for a OHR sensor, especially one on the wrist, try to get a lock on heart rate mid activity. It could take pretty long, and most probably lock on cadence if you are moving. And it sounds like a nightmare of edge cases, with decisions to take on what to do when the belt is connected again, if it is. The simpler solution, and the one that most companies use as far I can see, is to have memory on the chest sensor itself to compensate for disconnects, so that data can be transferred back to the watch post activity. Of course if the battery dies this does not work, but coin cell operated straps lasts for much longer than a watch.

              Anyway, easy to test. Start activity with paired chest strap, remove it, and go away until it disconnects, then check if the leds on the watch are blinking 🙂

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

              Blog: isazi's home

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                florin2528 Bronze Member
                last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 10:54

                from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

                cons:

                • sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
                • display: light during evening/night
                • daily stress(WHR), battery was going low too often
                  - GPS - less accurate than Ambit2 or phone, this is the most important one for me.
                • missing shortcut for airplane mode
                • you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity
                • WHR not working properly, I would prefer not to show the numbers instead of wrong readings

                pros:

                • well made, robust
                • good battery life compared with other
                • navigation - helped me a lot, by loading routes from colleagues, or defining new routes when running in new places.
                • good information on screen depending on the type of activity
                • I wouldn’t change it for Garmin, I tried fenix5 and was very bad on battery
                • nice straps

                Suunto issues:

                • difficult to order accessories in Romania
                • I like the Suunto app, I would like to have it on the web also

                Cheers,
                Florin

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                  Maryn Silver Members @florin2528
                  last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 10:59

                  @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                  you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

                  yes you can.

                  Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                    freeheeler @Maryn
                    last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:48

                    @Maryn
                    maybe he did not do the firmware update?

                    living sideways

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                      Maryn Silver Members @freeheeler
                      last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:49

                      @TELE-HO maybe yes.

                      In latest sw version time is shown if you set more than 3 fields on the screen.
                      Of course, you can also put time(hour) as a seperate data field.

                      Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                        Maryn Silver Members
                        last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 11:57

                        @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                        • less accurate than Ambit2

                        By the way, if you say that Ambit 2 has better gps then is highly likely that you are running an old software 🙂

                        Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @florin2528
                          last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 15:38

                          @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          from my side after more than 1.4k km with S9 Baro.

                          cons:

                          • sleep tracking, was not working properly. Taking movie watching and reading as sleeping. Garmin fenix5 didn’t do that. I’m not using it at all
                            Florin

                          This does not happen for me. If you have your normal sleep hours set and autoDnD set I never get sleep counted when reading or watching a movie. If you do not have sleep hours set it might be possible.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            zvonejan Bronze Member @florin2528
                            last edited by 13 Jul 2020, 16:02

                            @florin2528 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                            • you can’t see the time(hour) during an activity

                            double tap or bottom button (2 sec)

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                              isazi Moderator
                              last edited by isazi 16 Jul 2020, 15:28

                              Doing an alpine climbing tour this week. The altimeter of the S9b is amazing, I have been sitting on a couple of summits with the watch agreeing with the map, same for huts. On the same group a Fenix 5s (or maybe 6s, but looks more a 5s to me) user got readings far by even 100 meters. And being this the first alpine tour I did with the S9, I’m very very happy.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @isazi
                                last edited by 16 Jul 2020, 16:55

                                @isazi

                                I can confirm this. Also, last week I was one day for 9 hours on a hiking tour. When I’ve arrived at the peak of the mountain, the wrote altitude of the peak was exactly the same with the altitude from the watch and I was really impressed👍

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                                Polar H10
                                Iphone 14 Pro
                                Suunto 9 Baro [sold]

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                                  Maryn Silver Members @isazi
                                  last edited by 17 Jul 2020, 12:10

                                  @isazi what gps system did you use ? Beidou?

                                  Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                                    isazi Moderator @Maryn
                                    last edited by 17 Jul 2020, 14:39

                                    @Maryn since it became available, I’m always using GPS+Beidou. Maybe GPS alone would be enough, but I’ve had good results with this setup so far and I’m not changing it for now.

                                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                    Blog: isazi's home

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                                      lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
                                      last edited by 17 Jul 2020, 18:22

                                      @isazi said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                      @Maryn since it became available, I’m always using GPS+Beidou. Maybe GPS alone would be enough, but I’ve had good results with this setup so far and I’m not changing it for now.

                                      I used gps+beidou and tracks were wobbly like a drunk going home on St. Patrick’s day. I turned off and use gpu only and tracks became clear.

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                                        A Former User @lexterm77
                                        last edited by A Former User 19 Jul 2020, 18:21

                                        @lexterm77 my experience is following: the best results I get, when I am waiting a few minutes when I got GPS conformation… I have always something to do… shoes etc. I think more satellites will connect then. I also try to connect in free areas and not in the woods. I think these start conditions are leading to best gps, even if you are afterwards in the woods… only connecting fast in not so free areas is not so good… Think this is also not Suunto specific…

                                        Especially do this, if I am following in mountains or in the woods. Not if so much when I am running in flat free areas…

                                        @Brad_Olwin @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos right?

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                                          lexterm77 Bronze Member @Guest
                                          last edited by 19 Jul 2020, 19:16

                                          @mountainChris

                                          My experience with trail running or hiking along a side of a river dam in heavily wooded area is best with gps only, any other combination reveals worse results as eastern sky is obscured. I always wait for gps lock, and I always start my hike on same stone and finish it to have a reference. I don’t know why is wobbly when it connects to more satellites. My ascent descent don’t match either if i use combination of gps-s, where gps only matches within 1m.

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