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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    freeheeler @azeanic
    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:04

    @azeanic
    how does your s9 and garmin/coros track look compared in strava?
    …despite that I noticed that strava shows a compressed trackline compared to SA and MC…

    living sideways

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      freeheeler @zhang965
      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:05

      @zhang965
      you’ve got fusedtrack disabled? and better precision?

      living sideways

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        A Former User @azeanic
        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:14

        @azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

        Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.

        Coros Vertix is advertised to have 60 hours in the best GPS mode, but the accuracy isn’t as good as Suunto 9 from some discussions that I’ve seen so far.

        Suuto 9 could have survived the entire race on a single charge in Performance mode if OHR was turned off from the beginning, but that would be a close call.

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          freeheeler @Guest
          last edited by freeheeler 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

          @silentvoyager
          does chest strap use less battery than ohr?

          living sideways

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            zhang965 @freeheeler
            last edited by zhang965 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

            @TELE-HO of course, chest belt requests less battery

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
              last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:44

              @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

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                zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
                last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:50

                @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                I didn’t think so, it just acts so,
                try it yourself, in the same sport mode, s9 will show different estimated battery life.

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                  johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                  last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:52

                  @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

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                    Egika Platinum Member @johann.fuehrer
                    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:55

                    @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                    @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                    It’s true.
                    WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
                    BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
                    The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

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                      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Egika
                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:56

                      @Egika said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                      @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                      @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                      It’s true.
                      WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
                      BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
                      The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

                      Thx for the info!

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                        freeheeler @zhang965
                        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:00

                        @zhang965
                        what is, by your experience, the battery life in best GPS mode?

                        and another technical question: is it possible to get oxygen values with these LED’s or would it require a different sensor?

                        living sideways

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                          zhang965
                          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:01

                          @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                          @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

                          It’s a wise strategy, I think suunto number line will never get the same (feeling ) as ambit line.

                          Personally I recommend you to get a second hand SSU if you don’t want wasting money, or garmin/polar stuff.

                          The difference between ambit and suunto number line is huge, I think as long as you stay with ambit, you will get harder to understand a new generation watch

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                            johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                            last edited by johann.fuehrer 19 Sept 2019, 15:11

                            @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                            And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

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                              zhang965 @freeheeler
                              last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:13

                              @TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              @zhang965
                              what is, by your experience, the battery life in best GPS mode?

                              and another technical question: is it possible to get oxygen values with these LED’s or would it require a different sensor?

                              I never did a long time activity, my longest move was a 12km 48min run, so for me the battery is enough.

                              It needs a different sensor for blood oxygen

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                                A Former User @johann.fuehrer
                                last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:20

                                @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                                It is easy enough to try because Suunto 9 shows estimated battery life on activity start screen.

                                If my memory is correct, with full charge in Performance mode S9B promises the following:

                                • With OHR - 25 hours
                                • With BT HR sensor - 30-31 hours
                                • With HR turned off - 33-34 hours
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                                  zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
                                  last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:21

                                  @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                  @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                                  And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

                                  i had almost complexe feeling about SSU, it was so awful in 360 degrees.

                                  I was telling myself , when buying S9, there will be nothing awful as ssu, there will be nothing awful as ssu.

                                  Until I opened s9’s package

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                                    pilleus @zhang965
                                    last edited by pilleus 19 Sept 2019, 15:22

                                    @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                    Personally I recommend you to get a second hand SSU

                                    +1

                                    I just got a new one for 225 EUR (including heart belt).

                                    But I think that my Ambit 3 is the best choice further on. 😎👍

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                                      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:25

                                      @zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                      @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                      @zhang965 I had an “SSU Titanium Customized” until last week and dropped it because of issues … I’m now waiting where to go and stay with the A2 Peak Sapphire

                                      And I had Also an S9 BARo & S9BARO Titanium which I also get rid of as long as I could get my money back. I’m not giving up, but I will not wait forever …

                                      i had almost complexe feeling about SSU, it was so awful in 360 degrees.

                                      I was telling myself , when buying S9, there will be nothing awful as ssu, there will be nothing awful as ssu.

                                      Until I opened s9’s package

                                      I’m not bounded to a brand, I’m using V800 and A2PS together, because I need only good pace/power and time/distance during my workouts. The rest is “candy”. And for GPS track quality and battery lifetime these two are still unbeaten (IMHO) for my needs …

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                                        freeheeler @Guest
                                        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:26

                                        @silentvoyager said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                        With BT HR sensor - 30-31 hours

                                        that would be perfect for my extended skitouring weekends 👌

                                        living sideways

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                                          freeheeler @zhang965
                                          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 15:28

                                          @zhang965
                                          why is ssu and s9 aweful?
                                          do you like the a3ps design better?

                                          living sideways

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