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    A Former User
    last edited by A Former User 21 Sept 2019, 04:16

    Is your rest HR setup correctly in the watch?

    Also, are you HR zones and max HR are setup in the watch in addition to Movescount? I am pretty sure Spartan and newer Suunto watches don’t use HR zones from Movescount. Instead HR zones must be setup directly on the watch (which I personally think was a bad design decision).

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      Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
      last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:10

      My rest HR is set to 60, which I feel is correct unless there’s a way to test it lol.

      I also set everything up on the watch before connecting it to the new Suunto app. I later connected it to movecount. So all the personal information and HR zones are all set up through the watch

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        suzzlo Moderator
        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:13

        Another chech.:

        As far as you may know, there are default and advanced zones for running and cycling. So in these type of activities, advanced zones are used…

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          Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
          last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 06:40

          I use the advanced zone to set up the specified HR zones I’ve posted above for all running sports. My normal HR zones for sports other than running are more like this:
          Zone 5: 90-100%
          4: 80-90%
          3: 70-80%
          2: 60-70%
          1: 60% and below.

          But so far I’m only using this watch for running. So it would only use the HR zones that I specified above.

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            A Former User
            last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 07:29

            Sorry, don’t know what might be the issue. I don’t usually pay attention to Calories but I checked my last activity and the calorie estimate seems to be reasonable - 475 Cal for a 4.2 mile run with some elevation gain.

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              suzzlo Moderator @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
              last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:21

              @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright @silentvoyager

              Today => 1:15h 13.5k 158HR(avg) -> 1200 calories (should be 900 -1000)

              Same route (should be 600-700)
              2019/09/13 => 0:52h 9k 158HR(avg) -> 830 cal
              2019/08/20 => 0:49h 9k 149HR(avg) -> 694 cal
              2019/07/22 => 0:52h 9k 149HR(avg) -> 755 cal
              2019/07/17 => 0:47h 9k 158HR(avg) -> 761 cal
              2019/06/15 => 0:50h 9k 168HR(avg) -> 917 cal

              Perhaps I’m in the same case (not so big difference) and didn’t realize 😞

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                suzzlo Moderator
                last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:24

                BTW, weather here in north of Spain is a bit crazy and training in different hours… it’s difficult (for me) to mantain avg HR for same route

                😞

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                  zhang965 @Guest
                  last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 10:48

                  @silentvoyager said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                  Sorry, don’t know what might be the issue. I don’t usually pay attention to Calories but I checked my last activity and the calorie estimate seems to be reasonable - 475 Cal for a 4.2 mile run with some elevation gain.

                  475 for 4.2 mile?
                  I’ve got 689 for 7.5 mile

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                    Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                    last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 17:15

                    I just didn’t know if other people were having the same problem. Is Suunto even working on fixing this problem? Or is this just normal and I have to deal with it (I just divide the calories burned in half and that gives me a more reasonable number)

                    I agree with @zhang965, @silentvoyager those numbers don’t seem right. Like it’s the opposite of what I’m going through. That’s about my average calories burned for a 2-3 mile run, but my watch would show me that I burned 800+ calories for that. That’s really weird.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                      last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 18:30

                      Hi perhaps this helps.

                      The workout summary contains the BMR calories.

                      So for example my bmr is 1700kcal so 1 hour is ~70kcal.

                      Any workout at any intensity i would do for 1h i would have 70kcal included.

                      So from the other app data you should remove the BMR

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                        last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 18:31

                        @Kyle-Vander-Ploeg-Wright no there is no problem at all reported in this case. Imo i have less calories from what polar gives me or strava.

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                          Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 21:40

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos you might be right. I’ll need to look into that

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                            A Former User @zhang965
                            last edited by 21 Sept 2019, 21:52

                            @zhang965 said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                            475 for 4.2 mile?
                            I’ve got 689 for 7.5 mile

                            Calorie burn depends on weight, pace, surface, weather, elevation gain etc.

                            That was a trail run with about 360 ft (110 meters) of elevation gain which required extra energy, plus you might be lighter than me.

                            But whatever, I don’t actually care.

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                              suzzlo Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by suzzlo 22 Sept 2019, 09:40

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto Spartan Sport Really high calories burned:

                              The workout summary contains the BMR calories.

                              This could explain that:

                              Workout calories:
                              IMG_20190922_113519.jpg

                              Day active calories:
                              IMG_20190922_113550.jpg

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @suzzlo
                                last edited by 22 Sept 2019, 10:06

                                @suzzlo yup

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                                  Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                                  last edited by Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright 23 Sept 2019, 01:29

                                  I’m still confused by what I’m seeing. I checked how much my BMR is. The watch tells me for my body metrics that my BMR is 1944 calories per day. Which comes out to 81 calories per hour. But if I take away that hourly BMR from my workouts, it’s not enough.

                                  I’m looking at the two photos of the watch showing the calories burned in the workout vs. what it says is day active calories. I still don’t know what math should be done to figure out exactly how many calories you burned for your workout. It’s super confusing.

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                                    suzzlo Moderator
                                    last edited by suzzlo 23 Sept 2019, 05:39

                                    Hi,

                                    My BMR is 1616, so ~67 cals/h
                                    I started at 9:30AM, and run for 1:30h (9:30 - 11:00) => so there are 100 basal calories + 1311 active calories

                                    So, at 11:00 I have burnt (2048 calories):

                                    • Active calories: 1311
                                    • Basal calories: 737 (67*11)

                                    Think that these are not exact numbers…, photos were taken at 11:35AM, and workout was about 1:33:41

                                    Makes sense to you?

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                                      Kyle Vander Ploeg-Wright
                                      last edited by 23 Sept 2019, 23:28

                                      Ok, I think I might know what the problem is. I can’t figure out the math, but I think it’s similar to how MyFitnesspal counts calories for steps taken along with your workout calories (which includes some of those steps taken). Basically it counts double calories. Anyone else thinks it might do this?

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