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Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11

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    isazi Moderator @Fermin Lopez Unzu
    last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 14:11

    @Fermin-Lopez-Unzu said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

    The only thing we have had is a “solution based in using a beta version of an app, tapping seven times somewhere in the phone, and entering in “debug” mode to do something I do not understand” every time I need to syncronize. By the way some people already said it does not work, and you say this is acandidate to solve the problem ?. I hope there is a better solution.

    This is not “the solution” ™, it is a way in which Suunto programmers are debugging the issue and looking for a solution that can be rolled into production and finally solve the issue.

    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fermin Lopez Unzu
      last edited by 18 Sept 2020, 15:41

      @Fermin-Lopez-Unzu said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

      The only thing we have had is a “solution based in using a beta version of an app, tapping seven times somewhere in the phone, and entering in “debug” mode to do something I do not understand” every time I need to syncronize. By the way some people already said it does not work, and you say this is acandidate to solve the problem ?.

      I asked this personally and here its a community forum and not support. Even as a Suunto employee that I became recently (sept) this is not my work here.

      @isazi is a moderator voted by the community in the previous call for moderators.

      Regarding to what I asked from all the people here, only one person answered and his watch, is now on it’s way to investigate what is going to cut a long story short.

      Now, while I do understand your position and frustration, I would like to gently remind you once again that this is a community forum.

      If i were working for suunto i would not dare to argue with an angry customer which is right.

      That doesn’t belong to @isazi nor here please.

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        Fermin Lopez Unzu @Fermin Lopez Unzu
        last edited by Fermin Lopez Unzu 18 Sept 2020, 20:14

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          benoitg Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 21 Sept 2020, 02:50

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thanks again for your help!
          But it’s true that’s for an issue a year old it’s a bit weird that Suunto had to wait for an user to send their own Suunto watch to debug this 🙂
          And anyway a year long issue that is blocking something like activities sync is really sad… again I completely understand that this could be tricky to fix and that Suunto wants to concentrate development effort on new features for new watches and Suunto app, not spend time on compatibility issue with older hardware.
          But some communication around that would have been nice, like we have now, so there’s hope!

          With iOS 14 update I couldn’t get activities to sync anymore 😞
          I’ll wipe the watch clean (I had long activities trying to sync) and retry.

          (I also tried on an iPhone 7 with iOS 14 but I couldn’t get pairing to work :s.)

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            A Former User
            last edited by 21 Sept 2020, 10:52

            I’ve upgraded my 1st gen SE to iOS 14.0 and my Suunto app is on version 1.60.0 (8364) and bluetooth connection seems pretty stable so far. I’ve been on a break so no activity recorded to try syncing, but will begin a new training session from tomorrow, then will check that too. GPS optimization and notification delivery are so far spot on. Before the upgrade on iOS 13.7 sync worked for me without any hiccups with the latest Suunto app, the only problem I had occasionally lost connection with the watch and I needed to turn off/on BT from the phone. Interestingly notification went through even when Suunto app showed not connected.

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              Juho Leskelä
              last edited by 23 Sept 2020, 15:34

              The same situation here, Ambit3 Sport won’t work with iPhone 11 Pro when I changed the phone.

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                ace575
                last edited by 26 Sept 2020, 02:44

                +1 this is completely broken. Rather than patronizing and fleecing the community (they recently dropped the price enticing new customers to buy a broken product), it would be better to make progress here and retain loyalty.

                This is likely a Bluetooth issue. Based on past experience with iOS phones and cars (Bluetooth connectivity), Apple tends to update HW/SW to better align with the Bluetooth spec, breaking early implementations (not uncommon in the connectivity and router space).

                How about you a) acknowledge the problem - a brand new Ambit3 watch does not pair well with latest iOS phones, even after resets, unpairing, firmware syncs (both apps), phone reboots, etc, etc, etc. And b) will not sync with the app. We know this is a Bluetooth spec issue since iPad works fine. Fix your software per specs and stop giving customers the runaround for years and enticing new business to procure broken product.

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                  benoitg Bronze Member @ace575
                  last edited by 29 Sept 2020, 18:30

                  @ace575 I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos understood and acknowledged this issue: clearly a Bluetooth connection issue between newer iPhone / iOS and the Ambit3.
                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos does Suunto have like a bug tracking platform where we can check progress on this issue ?
                  And yes the fact that the watch is still on sale on the Suunto website without any disclaimer clearly bothers me a little 🙂
                  With the latest Suunto app beta version : pairing works on iPhone SE 2020 and iPhone 7.
                  But I could not get activities to sync on either phone. Could not export raw files from the debug menu though like you asked @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos it just fails continuously 😞

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @benoitg
                    last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 08:06

                    @benoitg hi with what message does it fail. If you reached that point please PM me and I can help communicating this and getting this solved with Suunto. Please send me a pm here or at ext_dimitrios.kanellopoulos@suunto.com

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                      benoitg Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 12:05

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok I will next time I have an activity to sync.
                      But don’t you have watches, phones, testing procedures at Suunto ? This issue is reproducible easily 🙂

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @benoitg
                        last edited by 30 Sept 2020, 12:06

                        @benoitg well honestly for us it aint. Else I would not be asking. Thats why the first person who tried this already now has his watch back to Finland (Suunto) asap.

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                          Sven_Kiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 8 Oct 2020, 18:35

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos …Hi…is there a solution in sight for a little frustrated Ambit 3 Sapphire User with IPhone XS iOS 14.01? Bluetooth doesn‘t work here! Suunto Software of course also not!

                          The „funny thing“:
                          My old Ipad Air 2 with iOS 12.4.1 has got no problem…Bluetooth works! But: I do not dare to change here my working MC with Suunto.app

                          I tried everything like disconnect/forget Bluetooth/tried to pair again on Iphone > no reaction!

                          Reaction would be kindly appreciated!

                          Kalinichta and thx for any kind of help!

                          Sven

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                            The_77 Silver Members
                            last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 11:17

                            Maybe related/not related, but I came across today that Polar acknowledge that the V800 will likely fail to pair most of the time with the new iPhone generations, and as such they are not fully compatible.

                            Given the V800 release is from the same year as the Ambit 3, might be a related issue? Just a thought.

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                              Sven_Kiel
                              last edited by 13 Oct 2020, 09:17

                              Same problem with IPhone XS and no Sync possible anymore. With IPhone 6 before and IPad Air 2 it works. Support doesn‘t response!

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                                Sven_Kiel
                                last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 05:36

                                Same here with iPhone XS. Ambit is useless.

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                                  A Former User @Sven_Kiel
                                  last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 18:36

                                  Guys…this is not ambit only…Look at garmin forums…same problems…polar the same…

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                                    estevez Bronze Member
                                    last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 19:01

                                    Still working via Suuntolink? Can I synchronize moves to Suunto app installed on iPhone 11 via cable and Suuntolink? Everything is getting worse with Ambits…

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                                      isazi Moderator @estevez
                                      last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 19:08

                                      @estevez said in Syncing problems Ambit3 with iPhone11:

                                      Still working via Suuntolink? Can I synchronize moves to Suunto app installed on iPhone 11 via cable and Suuntolink? Everything is getting worse with Ambits…

                                      Yeah, why not, if you sync with cable you can see your moves in the Suunto app on your phone.

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                                        benoitg Bronze Member @estevez
                                        last edited by 16 Oct 2020, 00:44

                                        @estevez suuntolink or moveslink2 will work. Issue seems to be with Bluetooth protocol with newer iPhone (like SE 2020 or 11).
                                        For the moment I bring my old iPhone 7 with me when I don’t have my laptop and I need to sync activities 🤷🏻‍♂️
                                        Hopefully a fix will come soon !

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                                          Djanbgo @JohanT
                                          last edited by 2 Nov 2020, 15:34

                                          Hi All,

                                          I have made a new try after long while without using the phone. It now works fine to sync my iPhone 11 with my ambit. I was able to sync my 20 works. Finally !
                                          Note : I am on IOS13.6.1
                                          Regards,

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