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    cosme.costa @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 25 Nov 2019, 08:59

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Some advance, please?? 😇

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      auxina @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by 25 Nov 2019, 09:00

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
      Great news.
      I think the Spartan FW can improve with SUapp

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        sartoric Moderator @cosme.costa
        last edited by 25 Nov 2019, 09:11

        @cosmecosta
        at least

        • HR Monitoring to app
        • POI
        • Training plans

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          jsuarez Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 25 Nov 2019, 17:51

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Suunto App on steroids…!!! Tell us more 👂

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            DavorP @sartoric
            last edited by 25 Nov 2019, 18:42

            @sartoric said in Spartan update complains:

            @cosmecosta
            at least

            • HR Monitoring to app
            • POI
            • Training plans

            +Vo2 max

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              BobMiles Bronze Member
              last edited by BobMiles 25 Nov 2019, 20:56

              I’m sorry but you have kept users hoping since the release of the spartan line. Back then all we could hope for was to get basic functionality, as the watch was so far away from those marketing renders (e.g. the compass face, the color indicators…) and then the watch kept crashing during activities, which was not fixed for quite a while.
              People bought the watch, confident that they’d get a continuation of the ambit series with additional features.
              What they got is that you kept them hoping and waiting for what would be even less than the Ambit3 capabilities.
              And now you keep them hoping to get basic fitness tracking. After years.

              It’s just sad.

              I don’t like Garmin as a company, but they have all the features you keep users hoping for by dropping those tiny bits of information.
              Just be honest to your users, communicate what’s planned and what not.

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                carlo rocca @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 29 Nov 2019, 19:37

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, but the Spartan is still sold

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @carlo rocca
                  last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 29 Nov 2019, 19:45

                  @carlo-rocca and what’s up with that?

                  The unit is sold for what it does. Its a watch. Why would it need updates?

                  I am not saying it shouldn’t get, but personally if I would buy any watch it doesn’t come hand in hand with updates. Just saying and again dont get me wrong. I am against Suunto stopping the Spartan updates , but that doesn’t mean that it’s completely illogical or most important that it’s not a good device. I would train with a SSU anytime. Been my buddy at life since 2016. That it doesn’t get updates means that it doesn’t get any better and I DO KNOW IT HURTS, but again it doesn’t mean it’s a bad watch.

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                    carlo rocca @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 29 Nov 2019, 21:40

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos i mean that if you sell a product you must support it as the other product you sell.
                    I am satisfied of my ssswhr but im still waiting for structured workouts as promised 2 (two) years ago

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                      sartoric Moderator @carlo rocca
                      last edited by 29 Nov 2019, 22:35

                      @carlo-rocca said in Spartan update complains:

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos i mean that if you sell a product you must support it as the other product you sell.
                      I am satisfied of my ssswhr but im still waiting for structured workouts as promised 2 (two) years ago

                      And as said in the specific topic … structured workout won’t be added, not soon, probably never.

                      I have a spartan too, I would like to have more NEW functions, I like those just added to S9. I’m a bit annoyed yes … but I can’t say the watch is not supported if I’m not getting anything else. The watch does what it was supposed to do when I bought it (and something more to be honest)
                      I’m almost sure that if a new bug will be found, we’ll get a FW update to fix it.

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                        RuudK
                        last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 19:37

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                        Could you share more about the fact that the Spartan watches don’t need a fw upgrade to get some new functionalities? And could it be possible that new functions would be added with an app-update?

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                          fejker Gold Members @RuudK
                          last edited by 2 Dec 2019, 21:18

                          @RuudK he is talking about WP and POI creation in the app and sync to the watch … which | NEWS FLASH | used to work perfectly with Movescount and got left behind with the transfer to the still inferior SuuntoApp. There’s nothing particular to be excited about a function that used to work and will be brought back with a marketing pomp surrounding it like “Suunto has a new trick pony which is actually something we used to have, but now we have it again and other brands have had it for years too.”. 👿

                          SHUT UP LEGS!
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                            Michał Rudzki
                            last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 11:21

                            Here it is new firmware… but not for Spartan’s 😞 I don’t think we will get new Firmware update in this year (2019) also they removed Spartan from their page, now you can find the watch only in sport watches and all watches… It happened like all we know, Suunto would like to forget about the Spartan series…

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                              jsuarez Bronze Member @Michał Rudzki
                              last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 12:08

                              @Michał-Rudzki said in Spartan update complains:

                              Here it is new firmware… but not for Spartan’s 😞 I don’t think we will get new Firmware update in this year (2019) also they removed Spartan from their page, now you can find the watch only in sport watches and all watches… It happened like all we know, Suunto would like to forget about the Spartan series…

                              Of course. Conveniently just after Black Friday! What a coincidence.

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                                zhang965
                                last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 15:56

                                As an S9 user, I have had thought next FW update could for Spartan line, but I was wrong and wrong again.

                                Winners Wear Winners

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                                  Kramble
                                  last edited by Kramble 12 Mar 2019, 17:48 3 Dec 2019, 17:23

                                  From the last S9 FW update :

                                  There are some altitude improvements as well and quite a few bug fixes as well.
                                  You FusedAlti should work much better calibrating the initial altitude and having more consistent ascent and descent values

                                  That’s exactly what’s missing to the Spartans for months. That’s why for me the Spartan was incomplete and that’s why Suunto decision to stop spartan FW update is unacceptable from my point of wiew.
                                  It’s not a question of new features (I don’t care, I didn’t buy it for those) but this 3 years old flagship spartan is not really finish…
                                  End of my story with Suunto.

                                  Answer from Dimitrios

                                  https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuuntoAmbit/permalink/2602441036514610/

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Kramble
                                    last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 12 Mar 2019, 20:52 3 Dec 2019, 20:51

                                    @Kramble I think I also answered this on another thread, that Spartans did not have this issue and I can explain technically if needed.

                                    To your information, the fused alti retry to correct the intitial altitude (because there is continius calibration) and other improvements might come and are looked at and those might indeed miss from the Spartan line with a future update.

                                    Don’t get me wrong, I just try to clarify.

                                    This update if it came to Spartans would have brought the Suunto Plus mainly but no altitude improvements. The altitude improvements are on the Sony GPS Fw

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                                      kriskus Bronze Member
                                      last edited by kriskus 12 Mar 2019, 21:50 3 Dec 2019, 21:48

                                      Some really cool stuff from the past:

                                      https://www.facebook.com/Suunto/posts/10153965137237621

                                      Quotes:

                                      “In our continued commitment to keep you informed of updates coming and scheduled for the Suunto Spartan,we wanted to share the current status of the Spartan Gets Stronger development roadmap”

                                      “We also need to delay the scheduled October 26th [2016] update (Sport mode customization, training plans to your watch and more) to later this year”

                                      “we are making progress and remain confident and committed that the Spartan solution will deliver on its potential”

                                      Looks like the person handling PR has since left the company - I haven’t seen any such announcements for a long time now.

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                                        fejker Gold Members @kriskus
                                        last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 22:01

                                        @kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

                                        Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

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                                          jsuarez Bronze Member @fejker
                                          last edited by 3 Dec 2019, 22:04

                                          @fejker said in Spartan update complains:

                                          @kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

                                          Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

                                          You mean that feature that if you use SuuntoApp then you loose the ability to sing with Movescount and therefore the web frontend?

                                          I’m still sticking to movescount’s sports customisation for that very reason.

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