Spartan update complains

sartoric · 29 Nov 2019, 22:35

@carlo-rocca said in Spartan update complains:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos i mean that if you sell a product you must support it as the other product you sell.
I am satisfied of my ssswhr but im still waiting for structured workouts as promised 2 (two) years ago

And as said in the specific topic … structured workout won’t be added, not soon, probably never.

I have a spartan too, I would like to have more NEW functions, I like those just added to S9. I’m a bit annoyed yes … but I can’t say the watch is not supported if I’m not getting anything else. The watch does what it was supposed to do when I bought it (and something more to be honest)
I’m almost sure that if a new bug will be found, we’ll get a FW update to fix it.

RuudK · 2 Dec 2019, 19:37

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Could you share more about the fact that the Spartan watches don’t need a fw upgrade to get some new functionalities? And could it be possible that new functions would be added with an app-update?

fejker · 2 Dec 2019, 21:18

@RuudK he is talking about WP and POI creation in the app and sync to the watch … which | NEWS FLASH | used to work perfectly with Movescount and got left behind with the transfer to the still inferior SuuntoApp. There’s nothing particular to be excited about a function that used to work and will be brought back with a marketing pomp surrounding it like “Suunto has a new trick pony which is actually something we used to have, but now we have it again and other brands have had it for years too.”.

Michał Rudzki · 3 Dec 2019, 11:21

Here it is new firmware… but not for Spartan’s I don’t think we will get new Firmware update in this year (2019) also they removed Spartan from their page, now you can find the watch only in sport watches and all watches… It happened like all we know, Suunto would like to forget about the Spartan series…

jsuarez · 3 Dec 2019, 12:08

@Michał-Rudzki said in Spartan update complains:

Here it is new firmware… but not for Spartan’s I don’t think we will get new Firmware update in this year (2019) also they removed Spartan from their page, now you can find the watch only in sport watches and all watches… It happened like all we know, Suunto would like to forget about the Spartan series…

Of course. Conveniently just after Black Friday! What a coincidence.

zhang965 · 3 Dec 2019, 15:56

As an S9 user, I have had thought next FW update could for Spartan line, but I was wrong and wrong again.

Kramble · 3 Dec 2019, 17:23

From the last S9 FW update :

There are some altitude improvements as well and quite a few bug fixes as well.
You FusedAlti should work much better calibrating the initial altitude and having more consistent ascent and descent values

That’s exactly what’s missing to the Spartans for months. That’s why for me the Spartan was incomplete and that’s why Suunto decision to stop spartan FW update is unacceptable from my point of wiew.
It’s not a question of new features (I don’t care, I didn’t buy it for those) but this 3 years old flagship spartan is not really finish…
End of my story with Suunto.

Answer from Dimitrios

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuuntoAmbit/permalink/2602441036514610/

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 3 Dec 2019, 20:51

@Kramble I think I also answered this on another thread, that Spartans did not have this issue and I can explain technically if needed.

To your information, the fused alti retry to correct the intitial altitude (because there is continius calibration) and other improvements might come and are looked at and those might indeed miss from the Spartan line with a future update.

Don’t get me wrong, I just try to clarify.

This update if it came to Spartans would have brought the Suunto Plus mainly but no altitude improvements. The altitude improvements are on the Sony GPS Fw

kriskus · 3 Dec 2019, 21:48

Some really cool stuff from the past:

https://www.facebook.com/Suunto/posts/10153965137237621

Quotes:

“In our continued commitment to keep you informed of updates coming and scheduled for the Suunto Spartan,we wanted to share the current status of the Spartan Gets Stronger development roadmap”

“We also need to delay the scheduled October 26th [2016] update (Sport mode customization, training plans to your watch and more) to later this year”

“we are making progress and remain confident and committed that the Spartan solution will deliver on its potential”

Looks like the person handling PR has since left the company - I haven’t seen any such announcements for a long time now.

fejker · 3 Dec 2019, 22:01

@kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

jsuarez · 3 Dec 2019, 22:04

@fejker said in Spartan update complains:

@kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

You mean that feature that if you use SuuntoApp then you loose the ability to sing with Movescount and therefore the web frontend?

I’m still sticking to movescount’s sports customisation for that very reason.

fejker · 3 Dec 2019, 22:10

@jsuarez said in Spartan update complains:

@fejker said in Spartan update complains:

@kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

You mean that feature that if you use SuuntoApp then you loose the ability to sing with Movescount and therefore the web frontend?

I’m still sticking to movescount’s sports customisation for that very reason.

No, no, I am talking about the first iteration of the sport mode customization that we got about two or three FW updates into the release of the watch - remember how there was no way to change the actual displayed parameters on the sport modes, not even in Movescount?

jsuarez · 3 Dec 2019, 22:12

@fejker I wasn’t there back then. I became a Suunto user in Nov 2017. Just when everything started to get shitty. LOL

zhang965 · 4 Dec 2019, 08:45

Spartans have not got the FW, again!

jsr184 · 4 Dec 2019, 09:46

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have some concerns whether it’s worth to keep my SSSWHRB or just consider switch. I got my watch in December 2018 and since then a few good things happened. I’m quite patient if there’s any development going on but here it looks like not much more has been planned for Spartan line. I’m quite happy but I miss certain features like structured workouts, proper multisport mode, daily HR data to view. I know some things can be solved on the SA level, others onl the FW level. There are still some bugs in the FW, like the one that sometimes the watch freezes saving the activity, I need to reboot the watch on “Saving” sceen but then it looks like everything stays synced, so no big deal, no data lost yet or the altitude is kinda wrong (after tracking the activity, it goes up over time even if I don’t go up) or HR is rather… not functioning as expected . Now, SuuntoPlus is quite promising but again, not coming to Spartan line. If I get another Suunto watch I’m afraid that after a year it will become obsolete, too (just my luck) Since xmas is coming I’m just wondering whether it’s worth to give a hint to my wife to get me Polar or Garmin as next watch or it is worth to stick with Suunto and wait counting that Spartan still may shine a little brighter?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 4 Dec 2019, 09:50

@jsr184 Hi, I do undersand well.

I might need your help here though. IF the watch gets stuck in saving mode, please conncect it as soon as possible to suunto link and press send logs and pass me the log id.

I want this issue fixed that people report and that fix I WANT TO PUSH TO COME AS AN UPDATE to spartans with no promise. I want to try.

jsuarez · 4 Dec 2019, 10:25

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Hi Dimitrios. What about the other concerns? Should we expect any communication regarding Spartans going forward or the web frontend? I am really feeling bitter these last few days, just like other Spartan users.

sebaor · 4 Dec 2019, 10:34

When I bought my SSU it was mainly for Movescount that I found fantastic Before the SSU I had a Fenix 3 but I don’t really liked Garmin Connect. But I really liked the possibility do program complex intervals on the Garmin Connect. I have waited for this option for the SSU but it never comes.

I hesitate to bought a new S9 but I’m really disappointed with the SA and mainly by the fact that it’s not possible to creat complex intervals.

So now that it seems clear that we will not have any new improvement on SSU I ordered a Polar Vantage V. Mainly because of the possibility to create complex intervals and Polar Flow.

auxina · 4 Dec 2019, 11:05

I used to have a Polar M400. Now I have an SSU.
I am satisfied with my SUU but Polar software is very good.
I miss Training Plans, complex Intervals, putting more data screens in sport profiles, …
I also miss Polar’s website to analyze the workouts.
Now I am obliged to use other websites.
(Runalyze is very complete).
I am satisfied with my SUU but I do not recommend it to anyone, I think that Polar and Garmin have many features that people appreciate (even if they are not really essential).

I hope Suunto doesn’t abandon the Spartan. Users made a great economic investment and our watch has many shortcomings.

Until version 2.8.24 and 2.8.28 the S and Spartan were supposed to be aligned. Has Suunto changed course?

BobMiles · 6 Dec 2019, 07:46

I’ll just drop that after a major new software release for the FR945, bringing features like pace pro from the Fenix 6 series, just some weeks later they have a new public beta with even more features and latest bugfixes that did not make it to the release.
That’s how it should be. Hope suunto will make some decisions to change course soon, otherwise they’ll be abandoned.