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    • zhang965Z Offline
      zhang965
      last edited by

      As an S9 user, I have had thought next FW update could for Spartan line, but I was wrong and wrong again.

      Winners Wear Winners

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      • K Offline
        Kramble
        last edited by Kramble

        From the last S9 FW update :

        There are some altitude improvements as well and quite a few bug fixes as well.
        You FusedAlti should work much better calibrating the initial altitude and having more consistent ascent and descent values

        That’s exactly what’s missing to the Spartans for months. That’s why for me the Spartan was incomplete and that’s why Suunto decision to stop spartan FW update is unacceptable from my point of wiew.
        It’s not a question of new features (I don’t care, I didn’t buy it for those) but this 3 years old flagship spartan is not really finish…
        End of my story with Suunto.

        Answer from Dimitrios

        https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuuntoAmbit/permalink/2602441036514610/

        Ambit 3 peak saphir
        Spartan Ultra (sold)
        S7 graphite copper
        S9 peak all black
        Vertical titanium green forest
        Wings

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Kramble
          last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

          @Kramble I think I also answered this on another thread, that Spartans did not have this issue and I can explain technically if needed.

          To your information, the fused alti retry to correct the intitial altitude (because there is continius calibration) and other improvements might come and are looked at and those might indeed miss from the Spartan line with a future update.

          Don’t get me wrong, I just try to clarify.

          This update if it came to Spartans would have brought the Suunto Plus mainly but no altitude improvements. The altitude improvements are on the Sony GPS Fw

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          • kriskusK Offline
            kriskus Bronze Member
            last edited by kriskus

            Some really cool stuff from the past:

            https://www.facebook.com/Suunto/posts/10153965137237621

            Quotes:

            “In our continued commitment to keep you informed of updates coming and scheduled for the Suunto Spartan,we wanted to share the current status of the Spartan Gets Stronger development roadmap”

            “We also need to delay the scheduled October 26th [2016] update (Sport mode customization, training plans to your watch and more) to later this year”

            “we are making progress and remain confident and committed that the Spartan solution will deliver on its potential”

            Looks like the person handling PR has since left the company - I haven’t seen any such announcements for a long time now.

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            • fejkerF Offline
              fejker Gold Members @kriskus
              last edited by

              @kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

              Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

              SHUT UP LEGS!
              -Jens Voigt

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                jsuarez Bronze Member @fejker
                last edited by

                @fejker said in Spartan update complains:

                @kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

                Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

                You mean that feature that if you use SuuntoApp then you loose the ability to sing with Movescount and therefore the web frontend?

                I’m still sticking to movescount’s sports customisation for that very reason.

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                • fejkerF Offline
                  fejker Gold Members @jsuarez
                  last edited by

                  @jsuarez said in Spartan update complains:

                  @fejker said in Spartan update complains:

                  @kriskus they are eating their words and not keeping promises “Spartan Gets Stronger”.

                  Good thing we got sport mode customization. /sarcasm

                  You mean that feature that if you use SuuntoApp then you loose the ability to sing with Movescount and therefore the web frontend?

                  I’m still sticking to movescount’s sports customisation for that very reason.

                  No, no, I am talking about the first iteration of the sport mode customization that we got about two or three FW updates into the release of the watch - remember how there was no way to change the actual displayed parameters on the sport modes, not even in Movescount?

                  SHUT UP LEGS!
                  -Jens Voigt

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                  • J Offline
                    jsuarez Bronze Member @fejker
                    last edited by

                    @fejker I wasn’t there back then. I became a Suunto user in Nov 2017. Just when everything started to get shitty. LOL

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                    • zhang965Z Offline
                      zhang965
                      last edited by

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                      Spartans have not got the FW, again!

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                      • jsr184J Offline
                        jsr184 Bronze Member
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have some concerns whether it’s worth to keep my SSSWHRB or just consider switch. I got my watch in December 2018 and since then a few good things happened. I’m quite patient if there’s any development going on but here it looks like not much more has been planned for Spartan line. I’m quite happy but I miss certain features like structured workouts, proper multisport mode, daily HR data to view. I know some things can be solved on the SA level, others onl the FW level. There are still some bugs in the FW, like the one that sometimes the watch freezes saving the activity, I need to reboot the watch on “Saving” sceen but then it looks like everything stays synced, so no big deal, no data lost yet or the altitude is kinda wrong (after tracking the activity, it goes up over time even if I don’t go up) or HR is rather… not functioning as expected 😄 . Now, SuuntoPlus is quite promising but again, not coming to Spartan line. If I get another Suunto watch I’m afraid that after a year it will become obsolete, too (just my luck) 😄 Since xmas is coming I’m just wondering whether it’s worth to give a hint to my wife 😄 to get me Polar or Garmin as next watch or it is worth to stick with Suunto and wait counting that Spartan still may shine a little brighter?

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @jsr184
                          last edited by

                          @jsr184 Hi, I do undersand well.

                          I might need your help here though. IF the watch gets stuck in saving mode, please conncect it as soon as possible to suunto link and press send logs and pass me the log id.

                          I want this issue fixed that people report and that fix I WANT TO PUSH TO COME AS AN UPDATE to spartans with no promise. I want to try.

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                            jsuarez Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by jsuarez

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                            Hi Dimitrios. What about the other concerns? Should we expect any communication regarding Spartans going forward or the web frontend? I am really feeling bitter these last few days, just like other Spartan users.

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                            • S Offline
                              sebaor
                              last edited by

                              When I bought my SSU it was mainly for Movescount that I found fantastic Before the SSU I had a Fenix 3 but I don’t really liked Garmin Connect. But I really liked the possibility do program complex intervals on the Garmin Connect. I have waited for this option for the SSU but it never comes.

                              I hesitate to bought a new S9 but I’m really disappointed with the SA and mainly by the fact that it’s not possible to creat complex intervals.

                              So now that it seems clear that we will not have any new improvement on SSU I ordered a Polar Vantage V. Mainly because of the possibility to create complex intervals and Polar Flow.

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                              • auxinaA Offline
                                auxina
                                last edited by

                                I used to have a Polar M400. Now I have an SSU.
                                I am satisfied with my SUU but Polar software is very good.
                                I miss Training Plans, complex Intervals, putting more data screens in sport profiles, …
                                I also miss Polar’s website to analyze the workouts.
                                Now I am obliged to use other websites.
                                (Runalyze is very complete).
                                I am satisfied with my SUU but I do not recommend it to anyone, I think that Polar and Garmin have many features that people appreciate (even if they are not really essential).

                                I hope Suunto doesn’t abandon the Spartan. Users made a great economic investment and our watch has many shortcomings.

                                Until version 2.8.24 and 2.8.28 the S and Spartan were supposed to be aligned. Has Suunto changed course?

                                S9B Titanium Iron Man
                                2.26.8

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                                • B Offline
                                  BobMiles Bronze Member
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                                  I’ll just drop that after a major new software release for the FR945, bringing features like pace pro from the Fenix 6 series, just some weeks later they have a new public beta with even more features and latest bugfixes that did not make it to the release.
                                  That’s how it should be. Hope suunto will make some decisions to change course soon, otherwise they’ll be abandoned.

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                                  • Michał RudzkiM Offline
                                    Michał Rudzki
                                    last edited by

                                    @BobMiles I agree with you, I am really disappointed. I feel like someone tricks me, I bought a premium watch for premium prise and after not all 2 years I start getting information around that all features, bug fixes, and others will go into a new line. And looks like Spartans meets on his way Persian King 😞

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                                    • auxinaA Offline
                                      auxina
                                      last edited by

                                      There are people who do not understand our disappointment, especially people related to Suunto and fanboys. But I’m sure whoever bought an Ambit1,2 or 3, knew they had a premium watch. People who have bought a Spartan, we don’t have that feeling.
                                      S9 came out as a Spartan (but with vitamins) and was criticized for its lack of innovation.
                                      The S9 is improving little by little, and the Spartan has been abandoned before being a high-end watch.
                                      I think the people who had an Ambit have a very different experience than the people who bought Spartan. Spartan does not have the expected quality for a Suunto. S9 may become what Suunto should be.

                                      S9B Titanium Iron Man
                                      2.26.8

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @auxina
                                        last edited by

                                        @auxina hi everyone understands the disappointment even Suunto personel , including me and others.

                                        Its all over all media channels and everyone now-a-days looks at his company social posts or this forum for example…

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                                        • Fenr1rF Offline
                                          Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Not linked to anything in particular - just to take advantage of nearby greco-(helleno-[?])phone: is there an adjective (possessive or ordinary) from “Thermopylae”?

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                                          • auxinaA Offline
                                            auxina @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                            I participate in other forums and see that there are people who justify all Suunto decisions, so I think there is no understanding.

                                            I know that Suunto looks at the forums, and makes their assessments. I hope you are aware that Spartan has never been a watch that has had a great reputation (that’s why he added 1 year warranty) and that now is not the time to leave it without further improvements.

                                            I think it’s time to add some vitamins that improve the feelings of these users.

                                            S9B Titanium Iron Man
                                            2.26.8

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