Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 13 Jan 2020, 18:31

@stromdiddily said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

TBH - I recently put my S9 back on the shelf for my A3P and Apex. GPS consistency, which had it ahead of the others, just hasn’t been there with this latest update.

I hear you and I do not deny that the last update has been great for the common public but not so well for “all” users. The cut corner issue is well known.

Most of the users (statistically) that ‘have issues’ or are not pleased, are geographically distributed in common areas from my analysis. I don’t know why but I bet it has really todo with the stuff above us.

The most funny part is that it has been like so since many years and many brands afaik.

Typical scenario for me (the location/way I test) was that the accuracy of the Spartan series was far away from my expectations in contrast to the S series.

stromdiddily · 13 Jan 2020, 20:21

@isazi fair enough point. We are obviously a little more involved than the average user

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos region must have something to do with it. I look at tracks for folks in other places and often find much better results despite a seemingly common platform.

isazi · 23 Jan 2020, 20:41

@Łukasz-Szmigiel so today I must have got one of the best GPS tracks ever in my home area using Galileo. Unfortunately it’s too close to home to share it, but I was very impressed!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 23 Jan 2020, 20:43

Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.40.44

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos you mean - unpublished firmware?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 23 Jan 2020, 21:16

@Łukasz-Szmigiel yes I get (among others) Fieldtest SW to test.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 23 Jan 2020, 21:19

@Łukasz-Szmigiel FYI that is not stable nor something a normal person would benefit from.

As soon, and as across countries and continents, we can pass several tests we can say that it’s a safe FW to go ahead with.

nseslija · 23 Jan 2020, 21:42

@isazi now that you’ve mentioned, I also had one of the best GPS tracks this last weekend while hiking… with GLONASS although…

surfboomerang · 23 Jan 2020, 21:44

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

Can’t wait.
Are the speed spikes/wobbles also fixed on higher speeds? It got way better in the current firmware, but there is room for improvement as it still fails sometimes

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.40.44

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos always good to hear that new firmware is being tested and its results are promising. Awesome!

Brad_Olwin · 23 Jan 2020, 22:53

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

I can confirm way @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos as I have been Field-testing the new firmware. We both agree the GPS is much better.

azeanic · 24 Jan 2020, 07:33

Can confirm the latest GPS firmware is a lot better than previous iterations. I’m using Stryd for distance, so not sure about actual distance accuracy. But tracks are a lot cleaner and closer to where I’m actually running.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 24 Jan 2020, 08:47

@surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

Maryn · 24 Jan 2020, 11:12

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos let’s hope that this version stays as a release canditate.

surfboomerang · 24 Jan 2020, 12:03

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I haven’t seen the speed wobbles in my running activities. Only on other profiles. I think it has something to do with a different log algorithm in the running profiles.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 24 Jan 2020, 12:05

@surfboomerang we don’t use anything different (algo) between types.

It can be though the way you use your arms

freeheeler · 24 Jan 2020, 12:09

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

Shrek3k · 24 Jan 2020, 12:11

I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy )

Fenr1r · 24 Jan 2020, 12:13

@TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

confusedspeed

Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 24 Jan 2020, 12:15

@TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

There is also confusedTrack BTW