Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR

RiphRaph

@TELE-HO There’s a lot of trail runners in these parts who swear by their Ambits. But I’m done with Suunto for the moment because there still doesn’t seem to be any clarity about the future of a web interface. Maybe in a few years’ time, depending.

For the moment, I hear the Fenix 6X Pro has a great barometer, though the price tag is keeping me from pulling the trigger just at present.

RiphRaph

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks.

It was indeed a great watch, a shame it was discontinued. Even the OHR was more than decent, though I prefer to run with a chest strap these days and, sadly, the Runner 3 doesn’t support external sensors.

freeheeler

@RiphRaph
I like to support my nordic friends and also support what they’re doing even if I don’t completely agree on every single point or decision.
The watches are great… maybe you’ll find your desired watch if you don’t decide head over heels

RiphRaph

@TELE-HO In principle, I’d have preferred to stay with a European brand as well. And the build quality of the Spartan is great. But there are a few things about the Suunto ecosystem that I find annoying (over and above the uncertainty surrounding the web interface) and that wouldn’t change if I upgraded to the S9 baro.

So for the moment I’ll be looking elsewhere. In a few years, who knows? Whichever watch I buy next won’t be forever and depending on where Suunto is when my next upgrade falls due, I might return eventually.

isazi

@RiphRaph to be honest, the barometer of the F6 is not awesome either. But having a barometer is better than not having one, considering that error in altitude for the GPS can be quite bad. I’m looking at comparisons of F6 and S9, and the S9 barometer works better in what I’ve seen.

freeheeler

@isazi
plus the rumors about competitors following Suunto with shutting down web service…

isazi

@TELE-HO I haven’t heard about that, and I’ve nothing against Garmin, but the same issues posted here are posted on each vendor’s forum. It’s simply that the grass of the neighbor always looks greener

freeheeler

@isazi
the thing I see with Garmins Grass is that it measures oxygen saturation… but this does not pull me away from my S9B

RiphRaph

@isazi Where are you seeing those comparisons? Can you post links?

RiphRaph

@TELE-HO I couldn’t care less about oxygen saturation, but the F6X Pro claims to measure your rehydration needs (and an acquaintance who owns one and weighs himself before and after exercise to track his hydration status says it’s pretty accurate). Additionally:

Suunto makes you customise your data screens on the web or in the app; Garmin lets you do it on the watch;
The more I use the touchscreen, the more it annoys me; F6X Pro doesn’t have one;
Spartan has no option for displaying clock time during a run unless you hit pause first (WTH??); F6X Pro does (according to an acquaintance who owns one;
Spartan offers VERY limited options for customising interval screens & no five-field option. Three fields isn’t enough and the font on the seven-field display is too small, because:
My middle-aged eyes are having an increasingly hard time making out the Spartan’s display on the run. I’ve seen my acquaintance’s F6X and the display does look a lot easier to make out.

So all of that tends to nudge me away from Suunto when looking for a barometer. For the moment, anyway.

jsr184

@RiphRaph actually, you can see the clock time during run if you customize the run activity. I did that for all activities I track because it was annoying to have to pause just to see the time.

RiphRaph

@jsr184 Are you using Suunto app? I’m still using Movescount because I don’t want to lock myself out before they actually kill the site, and I can’t see a way to add clock time there.

ETA: Huh. Just checked again and the option is there. That’s interesting; I’ve never seen it before!

jsr184

@RiphRaph yes, I switched to Suunto app (not willingly but when I used custom sports feature in the app it unlinked my watch).

RiphRaph

@jsr184 This is why I’m super-careful not to touch the custom sport modes and routes in Suunto App. I do use it on my phone because to give it its due, it’s much better than Movescount App was (though nowhere near good enough to replace a web interface; nothing on a phone screen could do that).

As far as I know, you can regain access to Movescount if you factory reset your watch.

sartoric

@RiphRaph said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

Spartan has no option for displaying clock time during a run unless you hit pause first (WTH??); F6X Pro does (according to an acquaintance who owns one;

well, in fact if you double tap the screen you get it
and , ~~should be~~ it’s available on bottom button long-press too

isazi

@TELE-HO oxygen saturation on the F6 is better than my finger reader for what I have seen, but if you keep it enabled it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

isazi

@RiphRaph I can’t without showing the world where I live, and having had stalkers in the past I’ll avoid that. But if I can get some comparisons on a trip (let’s say next week or at the end of the month) I will.

RiphRaph

@sartoric …Wow.

Didn’t know that. It isn’t in the manual, apparently, which still says:

“While recording an exercise:
Upper button
• press to pause or resume recording
• keep pressed to change activity
Middle button
• press to change displays
• keep pressed to open in-context options menu
Lower button
• press to mark a lap
• keep pressed to lock and unlock buttons”

RiphRaph

@isazi Fully understand. It wasn’t clear to me that you were talking about comparisons you’d performed yourself!

freeheeler

@isazi said in Dodgy elevation on Spartan Sport WHR:

it drains battery like there’s no tomorrow. So everyone disables it.

I would just switch it one when I feel bad, just to check…
but I’d rather buy a finger sensor for few euros than buying a 5x plus or 6x or whatever