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Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity

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    pilleus @olymay
    last edited by pilleus 14 Oct 2020, 14:50

    @olymay with a new phone you do not need to reset the S7. Search for the adb solution in xda-developers. It’s easy to use. 👍

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      pilleus
      last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 14:52

      A walk with a loaded route and fused track didn’t cause any problems. I cancelled the route on the way and reloaded it, no problem.

      I am sure that it’s a software related problem in connection with the phone.

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        olymay Gold Members @pilleus
        last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 15:16

        @pilleus Can you try with the higher accuracy gps track? I have never used the fused track (I don’t run for long enough to worry about battery life… yet).

        And when I run I do not take my phone with me, so how could that connection be the issue?

        I do agree with yo in that it is likely a software issue, as this has only been happening since the recent big update.

        Yes, I do know that I can use the ADB solution (used it before with other Wear OS watches) but as I seem to be resetting the S7 almost daily at the moment it isn’t really an issue to do it when I get my new phone 🙂

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          pavel.samokha @olymay
          last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 15:19

          @olymay if you’re able to work with adb - then try to do adb bugreport please

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            pilleus @olymay
            last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 15:26

            @olymay okay, I don’t use the S7 without phone, because both gadgets are on board. 😊

            Tomorrow I will be back with an activity with best GPS settings and without phone connection.

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              olymay Gold Members @pavel.samokha
              last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 16:30

              @pavel-samokha More than happy to try, but that isn’t something I have done before. Do you have a link to a guide please?

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                pavel.samokha @olymay
                last edited by pavel.samokha 14 Oct 2020, 17:20

                @olymay don’t have exact guide, roughly the same as with android phone:

                • Install ADB on you computer
                • Enable Dev mode on Suunto 7 (in Settings->About-> click multiple times (7 or 10, don’t remember) on Build Number)
                • Enable ADB debugging on Suunto 7 (Settings -> Dev options -> ADB debugging)
                • Connect Suunto 7 to your computer via cable
                • Authorize this computer to debug on S7 (popup should appear on S7)
                • Open Command Prompt on your computer and type adb bugreport

                After that you should have file with bugreport

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @olymay
                  last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 22:31

                  @olymay That is not normal, and I have not seen this problem. I would definitely contact support. They are typically quite helpful.

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                    DRezvoff
                    last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 05:10

                    there is a problem if 2 applications are installed and running simultaneously on the Smartphone - Movescount and SuuntoApp

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                      Bulkan Moderator @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 08:27

                      @Brad_Olwin I have a friend in the exactly situation and my S7 doesn’t do it.

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                        pilleus
                        last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 16:08

                        The problem seems to be solved for my S7 after 3 crashes and 3 factory resets.

                        5 activities with different settings and without any problem.

                        2 activities with connected phone, AOD, tilt-to-wake, best and good GPS settings, no route and route.

                        3 without connected phone, with and without AOD, with and without tilt-to-wake, with best GPS and route.

                        May be that after the update something was left in the cache or something else was wrong.

                        It’s okay for me now. 👍😊

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                          olymay Gold Members
                          last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 18:20

                          GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!

                          After three factory resets my watch seemed to be behaving last night (was only tested indoors and not on a run). My new phone arrived this morning so I went through a fourth factory reset to connect that.

                          I have just been for a 7K run following a route and it worked PERFECTLY!!

                          It seems that multiple factory resets (three seems to be the magic number) manages to clear whatever glitch may be present.

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                            pilleus @olymay
                            last edited by 15 Oct 2020, 18:27

                            @olymay said in Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity:

                            GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!

                            After three factory resets my watch seemed to be behaving last night (was only tested indoors and not on a run). My new phone arrived this morning so I went through a fourth factory reset to connect that.

                            I have just been for a 7K run following a route and it worked PERFECTLY!!

                            It seems that multiple factory resets (three seems to be the magic number) manages to clear whatever glitch may be present.

                            It’s magic! 😜🤣👍

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                              sherani
                              last edited by 16 Oct 2020, 09:48

                              Unfortunately I was not so lucky, yesterday fifth hard reset and I can still reproduce the app crash during the activity following a path. Going through the various screens you first notice a slight slowdown passing from the laps screen to the one with the altitude profile while all the others transitions are smooth. However, the problem occurs just after 5-6 km until the final crash of the app and loss of activity data. I state that I always run without a mobile phone and I also tried to activate the airplane mode to see if anything changes, obviously without success.

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                                olymay Gold Members @sherani
                                last edited by 16 Oct 2020, 14:13

                                @sherani That sounds like a right pain in the a**! It also sounds like yours it lasting significantly longer before crashing than mine did (mine was crashing as soon as it tried to go into power saving mode).
                                By hard reset, do you mean a full disconnect and factory reset? If not, I would suggest trying this, and it may take a few times (it took me three!). If that is what you have done, then you may have to send it back to Suunto 😞

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                                  pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by 17 Oct 2020, 18:05

                                  Hello guys.
                                  As you know I reported the bug and response is that it’s known and top priority at Suunto. Should be fixed with next update but unfortunately third-party (hardware provider) is involved so no ETA.

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                                    olymay Gold Members
                                    last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 14:36

                                    BAD news everyone!

                                    After a successful run on Thursday where my Suunto 7 worked perfectly whilst following a run, I went out today on the exact same route, with the exact same settings aaannnnddddd…

                                    IT CRASHED!!!

                                    However, this was different to previous issues. I started off on the default running info screen so I could keep an eye on my pace. When I got to the part of the route with a number of turns, I switched to the map view (I have this set to always on screen) so that I could easily and quickly see where I needed to go.
                                    After maybe 10 minutes of this mode, I switched back to the default screen to check my pace. I left it on this screen and when it switched to the powersaving display (thinner fonts etc) it crashed the Suunto Wear App and went to my clock face. Cue much swearing from me!!
                                    This was at around 5km in the run, when in the past it crashed at around the 1km mark or sooner.

                                    HOWEVER… I again opened the Suunto Wear App a little further in the run and it it openedd on the default running screen and was still tracking my run with all data present and correct!! Great I thought, it was just a blip. But, once it tried to go to the powersaving display again, it crashed again.
                                    I tried this a few times and the same thing happened every time. I decided to stop fiddling as it seemed to be continuing to track my run, just without showing it to me.
                                    At the finish line I was able to open the Suunto Wear App (it was still tracking!) and stop the run fine. When I got home it synced the data to my phone as normal, which is a huge relief!

                                    However, this is a £400 activity focussed watch that seems to require a factory reset before every run in order to work properly.

                                    Am I frustrated? Nope. I am absolutely &@%$ING SEETHING FURIOUS!!

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                                      Bulkan Moderator
                                      last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 15:27

                                      @olymay so sorry to read that. I’m frustrated reading you. So I don’t know what to tell you more than reach support and ask for a solution.

                                      At least we’ve discovered is a bug know and top priority to fix it but without ETA.

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                                        olymay Gold Members @Bulkan
                                        last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 16:02

                                        @Bulkan I have contacted support on three occasions. Every time they log my issue and inform me that someone from the technical team will contact me within 24-48 hours. I have never been contacted. I have utterly given up with Suunto customer service.

                                        Reading Pavel’s comment about Suunto acknowledging the issue (this part is good news) then saying they are relying on a third party, WHAT!?!? Firstly, this is a software issue, not hardware - the fault was introduced after the recent update. Second, I was under the impression that a Suunto watch would be made by Sunnto. What third party are they referring to? Or are they just fobbing off because they are either unable or unwilling to fix it?

                                        I’m now starting to look at my friend’s Garmin Fenix 6 with more and more envy

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @olymay
                                          last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 16:18

                                          @olymay I think they are referring to Google. The watch is a partnership.

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