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So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

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    A Former User @Ramón Castañer Botella
    last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 07:21

    @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

    Ok. Movescount site doesn’t work anymore. Big horror.
    To view moves with the mobile phone is ridiculous in comparison to view them in my big PC screen.

    And what about the data of the apps created by the users in Movescount side?? Is it not possible to download data apps??

    I have a cadence detector for my bike and the new Sunto app only gives cadence average. Is it not possible to see a graph of cadence vs time???

    I have the sensation that my Ambit3 is useless now.

    Have you tried to make sa sync for another 3rd party?

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      Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Guest
      last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 11:03

      @andré-faria Yes thanks. Normally I use Strava and Training Peaks and it is no bad.
      The problem is with the graphics for app data. These are not possible to graph.
      The only possibility would be to download the app data and graph them with any kind of data treatment package.

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        sebchastang Silver Members @Ramón Castañer Botella
        last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 11:20

        @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

        @andré-faria Yes thanks. Normally I use Strava and Training Peaks and it is no bad.
        The problem is with the graphics for app data. These are not possible to graph.
        The only possibility would be to download the app data and graph them with any kind of data treatment package.

        For my usage, this is one of the biggest drawback with this transition to SA : lost of suunto custom apps data.
        Does anybody know if there is any plan to support those app data (in the graph of the move) in the near future?

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          Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @sebchastang
          last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 2 Oct 2021, 13:40 10 Feb 2021, 13:28

          @sebchastang I completely agree with you. And if there is not any plan to support those app data at least, they could give the possibility to download the app data and so we could use an external program to represent the data.

          Perhaps they have not enough software to do the calculations (I suppose the calculated files for apps are stocked at their site), perhaps they want to sell other products, perhaps…

          I imagine that users will never know the truth because they aren’t never going tell us.

          .

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            sebchastang Silver Members @Ramón Castañer Botella
            last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 14:37

            @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

            @sebchastang I completely agree with you. And if there is not any plan to support those app data at least, they could give the possibility to download the app data and so we could use an external program to represent the data.

            Perhaps they have not enough software to do the calculations (I suppose the calculated files for apps are stocked at their site), perhaps they want to sell other products, perhaps…

            I imagine that users will never know the truth because they aren’t never going tell us.

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            Suunto App has been seriously improved during the past months but it really lacks support of Suunto Apps data.
            Some people around this forum kindly suggest me to use other tools like “openambit” or “golden cheetah” but it seems a bit complicated.
            We need a single place to handle our moves and associated data.

            I was a bit frustrated to lose route creation functionality in movescount web (due to loss of ascent and descent info) but there are other tools / websites to do it and we can also manage by using import / export GPX functionnality in SA, movescount and others sites.

            But we have no alternative for Suunto Apps data. Those data seems not to be synced with SuuntoLink or SA 😕 .
            I don’t understand why it is so complicated to include those apps data in the graph of the move in SA. Each custom apps has a result and it is recorded just like other data (speed, distance, …)
            It should have been taken into account from the beginning. We can consider a new app for managing data but not for losing data!

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Ramón Castañer Botella
              last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 14:51

              @ramón-castañer-botella cadence should be there

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                Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 15:10

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos

                Yes thanks. I’ve found it. The problem is that all in the mobile phone screen all things are small and difficult to find.
                It is ridiculous to change for a display in a big PC screen of 21 inches or more to a small screen of 7 inches at maximum.

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @francescobaldi
                  last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 15:21

                  @francescobaldi It is simply a business decision. And it is a watch, not someone’s life or health. I just think there should be some perspective on this.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 15:33

                    @brad_olwin Of course, the question is if they are going to loose or to gain with this decision in a long term.

                    My Ambit3 still works and possibly I will continue using it. But when it breaks I will change for brand. In fact, I have bought a Garmin for my son some months ago.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
                      last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 15:46

                      @ramón-castañer-botella The decision is made, and not all think it was a bad decision. I’ve stated many times how the S9 baro is a huge step up for me from the Ambit line.

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                        freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 17:27

                        @brad_olwin
                        absolutely agree… of course things could be better and depending on someone’s background (mine: development) you always would find something to improve, honestly everywhere.
                        details on the bikes, ski bindings, watches, software, even kitchen machines or details on ski jackets and pants… I even modify them 🙈

                        but it is as you said, it’s not about life or death… hence I try (!) to follow the rule: change what you can change and learn to accept what you can’t change 🙂

                        living sideways

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                          caldirun @Guest
                          last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 08:21

                          @andré-faria All of the above will not apply if you have Windows 7 installed on your PC, Suuntolink will not work for me and Moveslink 2 stopped working yesterday, I have an Ambit 3 paperweight, I only bought it before Christmas.

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                            A Former User @caldirun
                            last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 08:25

                            @caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                            @andré-faria All of the above will not apply if you have Windows 7 installed on your PC, Suuntolink will not work for me and Moveslink 2 stopped working yesterday, I have an Ambit 3 paperweight, I only bought it before Christmas.

                            Windows 7 64b and Ambit 3 Peak.
                            I’ve used Suunto Link with no issues today

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                              caldirun @Guest
                              last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 08:28

                              @andré-faria I tried a lot of things yesterday, the program opens up but is not seeing my Ambit 3, Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

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                                A Former User @caldirun
                                last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 08:33

                                @caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                @andré-faria I tried a lot of things yesterday, the program opens up but is not seeing my Ambit 3, Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

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                                Strange.
                                I even had moveslink2 and suunto link at the same time without issues.
                                Maybe related to cable no?
                                If you want/can you can always upgrade to win10 for free still.

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                                  Spree Bronze Member @caldirun
                                  last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 13:38

                                  @caldirun It’s worth mentioning that Windows 7 has not been supported by Microsoft for more than 1 year. It was released 12 years ago - an eternity, in the IT world. It’s not receiving security patches, no modern application will be developed with specific attention to Windows 7 compatibility - and I would argue that any computer running it should probably not be connected to the internet.

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                                    caldirun @Spree
                                    last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 16:38

                                    @spree said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                    @caldirun It’s worth mentioning that Windows 7 has not been supported by Microsoft for more than 1 year. It was released 12 years ago - an eternity, in the IT world. It’s not receiving security patches, no modern application will be developed with specific attention to Windows 7 compatibility - and I would argue that any computer running it should probably not be connected to the internet.

                                    Where would that leave XP? there are millions of pcs still running old systems. I have many legacy programs that still work fine and do all I require of them, I have a Run Log on Lotus Approach that has 24 years of data in it, do you suggest throwing it away and starting again. Microsoft just use it as a scare tactic to frighten people like you, I have never had security problems, its pure bull.

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                                      surfboomerang @caldirun
                                      last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 16:56

                                      @caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                      I have never had security problems

                                      At least none that you are aware of 😉

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                                        caldirun @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 17:29

                                        @surfboomerang If I am not aware of them then they were of no consequence, I think I may be wasting my time trying to connect to Movescount now. The Suunto Apps that I have used for years will no longer work? I can’t see my latest moves in Movescount (apparently its written everywhere, sounds very Biblical to me!) The Android App is useless, if I try to look on my phone it says “watch busy” what use is this? it only updates after I stop the exercise. I have to go back to my Honor Magic Watch 2, at least it has a decent App and gives my stepcount for an exercise and my mileage. The Ambit 3 that I bought before Christmas has been obsoleted by this Suuntolink/App, I have owned Suunto devices since 1998 and have always been impressed. They have tried to dumb down and compete with the mass market, I suggest they return to a niche outdoors/ explorer format that they have always been.

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                                          sebchastang Silver Members @caldirun
                                          last edited by 11 Feb 2021, 17:39

                                          @caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                          @surfboomerang The Suunto Apps that I have used for years will no longer work?

                                          The Suunto apps will still work but associated data (logs) won’t be synced anymore with Suunto App or SuuntoLink. It has already been discussed a lot on the forum and I am disappointed just like you and all other people who use those apps and associated data 😞

                                          Really embarrassing to lose such a feature for our “old” watches.

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