So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

sky-runner · 20 Feb 2021, 21:44

@freeheeler said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@sky-runner
is the golf feature still there and not possible to deactivate or hide?
Is it now possible to sort backcountry skiing / ski touring by total ascent?
Is it possible now to look up the ascent rate?

Don’t know about golf. Couldn’t care less about golfing, but since all the watch menus are customizable I don’t see golf anywhere.

Don’t know about backcountry skiing. I only do running, trail running, and occasionally, very rarely, hiking.

Ascent rate field can be added to data screens. For example, I have it in trail running. Furthermore the units for vertical speed can be customized between several choices. I have mine in feet/minute.
But I find vertical speed to be quite unstable when conditions are windy.

freeheeler · 21 Feb 2021, 09:29

@sky-runner said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Ascent rate field can be added to data screens

like in 2016 when I’ve had the F3… but no info in the app or web summary.
I just checked my old account: golf is still there and no sorting of total ascent for backcountry skiing.
I’ve requested and suggested this over and over again

margusl · 21 Feb 2021, 09:38

@freeheeler said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

like in 2016 when I’ve had the F3… but no info in the app or web summary.
I just checked my old account: golf is still there and no sorting of total ascent for backcountry skiing.
I’ve requested and suggested this over and over again

You mean… this:

(sorry for changing my flatter than flat XC to BC, I’m just afraid there’s no skinning for me during this season )

freeheeler · 21 Feb 2021, 09:55

@margusl
I did not see the ascent

margusl · 21 Feb 2021, 10:45

@freeheeler said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@margusl
I did not see the ascent

It’s your phone, it’s way too small for GC

Seriously, you need something that goes beyond 1024 in width before that table header is even shown, like landscaped IPad Pro. And Advanced is just for filtering, not sorting.

No idea why they decided to provide only certain metrics for certain sport types, but this is what you’ll get for BC ski:

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 00:24

All the days, I can see that Movescount site is still active for many people because there are a lot of new Moves.

I can see that many users upload Moves directily with:
Suunto 9 Baro
Suunto Spartan Ultra
Suunto Quest

And also from 3rd parties like:
FitnessSyncer
iQniter
MXActivityMover

Could anybody explain why Movescount is still working?
And if I have a Suunto Ambit 3 Sport, could I use any of these 3rd parties to upload Moves to Movescount site?
And how??

Bulkan · 24 Feb 2021, 08:41

@ramón-castañer-botella Hi Ramón, I think here are the answers.

https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/transition/how-do-i-use-the-suunto-services-with-ambit3/

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:11

@bulkan
Ok, thanks.
I think you are joking or you have not understood what I’m asking for.
The link you have gave me is for upload the data to new Suunto app and not to old Movescount site. Of course I know this procedure.
But I was asking for the old Movescount site.

pavel.samokha · 24 Feb 2021, 19:18

@ramón-castañer-botella I wonder how do you check that there are “many users upload Moves directly”? Using what page?

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:29

@pavel-samokha

That’s very easy:
You enter in Movescount site, you look in Community and then in Groups. You look for the biggest groups for example:
https://www.movescount.com/groups/group2318-Suunto_Ambit_family_users

Then you look for the 10 LATEST MOVES and you open some of them. At the end of some Move it appears how it has been upload.
As you will see, you can find Moves uploaded with:
Suunto 9 Baro
Suunto Spartan Ultra
Suunto Quest

And also from 3rd parties like:
FitnessSyncer
iQniter
MXActivityMover

The question is WHY???

freeheeler · 24 Feb 2021, 19:32

@ramón-castañer-botella
3rd parties is maybe because of forgotten sync services?

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:34

@freeheeler

Could you give one example of how to do it???

In any case, it is ridiculous that Movescount site is still working with some Suunto models or with some 3rd parties.

If Movescount is closed then it is closed for everyone. I don’t understand this politics.

freeheeler · 24 Feb 2021, 19:40

@ramón-castañer-botella
nobody said that movescount will be killed. I remember that it will still be active with a reduced service

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:43

@freeheeler
Fine.
Then could you explain how does this reduced service work to use it with my Suunto Ambit3??

pavel.samokha · 24 Feb 2021, 19:44

@ramón-castañer-botella OK, that’s interesting, thanks

I can partially answer the question:

Moveslink1 api is working and hence you can see Quest, M4, M5; nothing changed regarding these devices
Third-party APIs hasn’t been disabled yet probably
As for other devices I found only one workout made with Spartan Sport WHR. If you can post more links with recent Ambit/Spartan/S watches, I’ll be grateful. I’m really curious how do they “leak” into.

Anyway if you try to find the way to upload workouts to Movescount - there really no point in it. Even if there is a way to do it then it’s only matter of time when it will be “fixed”.

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:50

@pavel-samokha

Of course many APIs hasn’t been disabled yet and not probably. That’s for sure with the names I’ve written before.

I don’t like to post here individual Moves of someone. If you want you can search for them.

freeheeler · 24 Feb 2021, 19:53

@ramón-castañer-botella
no I can’t, sorry. I’m just a fan and user, not part of the team.
But I would like to know in a short summary what your actual problem is that we could help you with?

Ramón Castañer Botella · 24 Feb 2021, 19:58

@freeheeler

The problem is that I found Movescount site was very useful and much more than the new Suunto app that only works with the small screen of a mobile phone.
For using a big screen in a PC now I’m using quantified-self.io site that is very beautiful in design. However for me Movescount was more functional.
Of course, all of this without mention that since Movescount site has been “closed” I can’t view as a graphic the big quantity apps I have made for the Ambit. I can only use them in my watch but I have lost the temporal registry of the app data.

As you can imagine I’m veeeery angry

chrish · 24 Feb 2021, 20:07

@ramón-castañer-botella

I’m no authority on this, but in summary…

Movescount will drop the data analysis/moves part of what you have historically used it for, that goes to the Suunto App or like you said, third party.

Movescount will continue in some form to manage your watch settings, POIs, Routes, etc on older watches. That’s assuming they get that fixed in short order. There have been a few things broken there in that regard over the last year+, but hopefully they get it sorted out sooner rather than later.

freeheeler · 24 Feb 2021, 20:09

@ramón-castañer-botella
I can not only imagine, it is clearly noticable from your posts
it is how it is, Ambit was way ahead of competitor watches and maybe not the most wanted watch for everyone but it was very capable and customizable as you also mention with the apps and how you made use of it. I did that myself, too.
The thing is that companies need strategies to be able keeping up with the competitors and hence to pay salleries.
The time of Ambit has come and while it is still a useful watch it has lost some of its functions as I understand. But Ambit integration into SA is not entirely over afaik. For MC the communication was that the relevant features will remain, in my understanding: you will still be able to do app coding.
If MC does not show any of the activities anymore, I would expect that it will be available in SA eventually.