Suunto 9 Peak

Brad_Olwin · 26 May 2021, 12:59

@fenr1r Laugh, laugh, you’ll see when you’re over fifty …
If you continue to play sports …

Wait until you are over 60……as I said the screen on the Peak is brighter than the baro, much easier for me to see when out in the snow on a SkiMo day. It appears sharper to me as well but the ambient backlight helps a great deal when the sun is not shining. I was surprised and was skiing with the baro and Peak most of the time. I love the S7 screen but in bright sunlight and with sunglasses it is impossible to see, the transreflective screens are much better for outdoor use.

Egika · 26 May 2021, 13:00

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos so, as some people use the S7 with BT earphones for music, also the S7 wear app could do this

freeheeler · 26 May 2021, 13:43

@egika
with a smooth and nice ladies voice…
reminds me of countdowns to notify Mr. Bond in the 70’s how many seconds are left for him to save the world

Egika · 26 May 2021, 13:45

@freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@egika
with a smooth and nice ladies voice…
reminds me of countdowns to notify Mr. Bond in the 70’s how many seconds are left for him to save the world

or left until… :

Rob33 · 26 May 2021, 14:11

@brad_olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Wait until you are over 60……as I said the screen on the Peak is brighter than the baro, much easier for me to see when out in the snow on a SkiMo day. It appears sharper to me as well but the ambient backlight helps a great deal when the sun is not shining. I was surprised and was skiing with the baro and Peak most of the time.

indeed the brightness counts enough, but my problem is that I can not see much near without glasses (for example very complicated on a phone).
I admit it’s quite specific to my case… and it’s boring.

It will be necessary to test!

herlas · 26 May 2021, 15:47

@egika Sports Tracker was doing that since it started out as a Symbian OS based app, called Nokia Sports Tracker beta long long time ago you could customize what to hear, I always had it on so I could just hear it and keep running

wakarimasen · 26 May 2021, 22:58

@chrisa +1 on the ‘50+ ageing eyes.’ I have a similar pair!

wakarimasen · 26 May 2021, 23:00

@dulko79 …and with no need of an alarm in the night to get up to pee!

kk1n76 · 27 May 2021, 02:12

Pardon me for asking… I’m just wondering, with all the battery power during GPS tracking, why suunto 9 series cannot last more than a week in watch mode? we have 25 hour with best gps tracking, but 7-day mode only in smartwatch? (most often would be less in mixed usage).

freeheeler · 27 May 2021, 04:10

@kk1n76
most likely because of the valencell sensor for 24/7 HR etc. I have switched it off and get 5-7 days with frequent activity (best GPS and HR chest strap). Without any activity it’s around 14 days

Egika · 27 May 2021, 04:18

@kk1n76 said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Pardon me for asking… I’m just wondering, with all the battery power during GPS tracking, why suunto 9 series cannot last more than a week in watch mode? we have 25 hour with best gps tracking, but 7-day mode only in smartwatch? (most often would be less in mixed usage).

The question why is easy and basically physics.
The watch is using a certain energy every second to power the screen, the processor, the optical HR sensor and other sensors like pressure etc.
While most of the stuff can be switched off for most of the time it is still drawing a certain amount of energy per time. With the size of the battery given this will make your battery last for a certain time.
When recording a workout, additionally the GPS chip is powered and data displays need to be updated more frequently, while the processor needs more energy to compute the data and save it to memory.
This is why the battery lasts shorter when recording with GPS.

All variables in these equations depend on component selection. Like battery size (which influences housing size), screen resolution and backlight intensity, as well as the selection of the GPS and optical HR or BT chips.

You cannot trade battety time in GPS mode for battery time in standby mode. Especially not with one of the best GPS chips available on the market energy wise.

DMytro · 27 May 2021, 06:27

@egika I think it was asked more in comparison to other brands. Even though their models not necessarily possess similar battery life, but a worse one, they are able to be used one to two weeks between charges.
I would think it’s because of sensors hardware, on s9 especially, and because of suunto os.

Egika · 27 May 2021, 07:35

@дима-мельниченко i don’t have the numbers of other companies at hand.
With my words above:
It makes sense to look at the ratio: standby time / GPS time. wich for Suunto seems to be smaller than for others.
The factors goin into this equation are battery size and component consumption.
I would tend to say that Suunto is using a rather small battery (that yields a smaller standby time) but has a great GPS efficiency so is on par there.

jsuarez · 27 May 2021, 08:31

The S9 peak is a very nice, beautiful and proffessional-compatible-look watch! Very nice product which I could see myself buying.

However, as regards Suunto’s full picture, it’s so sad that Suunto is not committed to bringing back the Movescount web functionality. Great HW with only phone/app SW solutions is a no-go for me. (Before anyone replies, I know about QS and other partner connections, but I demand a one-stop-shop when a buy such a pricey product. That’s my customer choice for all kinds of products).

Egika · 27 May 2021, 08:41

@jsuarez interesting to hear. As my opinion is the exact contrary. I don’t like manufcturer proprietary solutions that keep me tied to their ecosystem.
I never installed the software bundle that came with printers and allowed for picture editing, scanning etc. I’ve always preferred the independent software that would work also with my next printer from maybe another company.

Same holds true for sport watches. If I changed brands I’d like to keep my data and just use the new hardware to record activities into the same platform of my choice.
QS and Strava and Trainingpeaks and all others are this kind of independent platforms that I choose according to my needs. And then every device I use just needs to be compatible.

But that’s just my preference.

A Former User · 27 May 2021, 11:04

Regarding snappiness of the peak, it is my impression or sometimes it renders laggy?
https://instagram.com/stories/samisauri/2582080242657679351?utm_medium=copy_link

(Non production firmware? Issue with the Instagram video ?)

lexterm77 · 27 May 2021, 11:12

@egika said in Suunto 9 Peak:

every device I use just needs to be compatible.

But that’s just my preference.

I want Suunto heat maps on a big 5K monitor. It is very simple to do, make SA available for Apple Silicon, just opt in like many other app developers.
No other third party can come close to it. I have premium subscription for Komoot, TP, planaroute. They don’t compare with Suunto heat map visualization.

isazi · 27 May 2021, 11:24

@andré-faria said in Suunto 9 Peak:

Regarding snappiness of the peak, it is my impression or sometimes it renders laggy?
https://instagram.com/stories/samisauri/2582080242657679351?utm_medium=copy_link

(Non production firmware? Issue with the Instagram video ?)

I can’t access the story, but as you can imagine there is no “production” firmware for the S9p yet. Should come at the same time the product begins shipping.

dulko79 · 27 May 2021, 11:30

@andré-faria there is one short chinese review of peak on youtube-u. For a short period he browsed through menus, browsing was smooth. Software version is not clear.

lexterm77 · 27 May 2021, 11:51

@dulko79 said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@andré-faria there is one short chinese review of peak on youtube-u. For a short period he browsed through menus, browsing was smooth. Software version is not clear.

I hope it wasn’t sped up like speech