Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs)

Suunto has a custom sleep tracking (in house) so I have literally no clue.

So, you don’t sleep with S9P? And if you do, does it give you REM or just deep sleep? That’s basically a difference between S9 and S7. I thought sleep analysis was at least partially FB algos, no?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk I sleep all the time with the s9P. That’s why I have DND.

It shows exactly the same data s9b shows.

So no rem unfortunately. Only time awake and deep sleep.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk let’s see how we can facilitate that.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak (review and specs):

So no rem unfortunately. Only time awake and deep sleep.

That’s quite alright. Now we know Peak takes off after its bigger brother. So, it is indeed Suunto 9 first, and Peak second.

I’m fine without REM given all existing watches’ sleep phase analysis is deeply flawed, no pun intended. Was just wondering…

wakarimasen

I’d be interested to hear how people ‘approach’ going to sleep, with sleep tracking in mind (I know it sounds like a really odd question). At the moment, my s9B seems to think I start sleeping between an hour and 90 minutes after I turn out the light, which I know to be incorrect. I’d worked out a way to get some reasonable results from my SSSWHR Baro, but using the same method doesn’t seem to be working here.

By the way: I know the results are not exact, and I’m comfortable with that. If I can get into a routine that would make them a little more accurate, I’d just be a little happier

JorgeFD

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos only one alarm still present in peak or newest firmware?

@wakarimasen Sadly, start of sleep being cutoff or extended into normal hours because you were reading, watching something, etc. is a sad fact of life. Other platforms, like Polar for example (you should know that based on previous ownership history ), have exact same problem.

My only three life hacks…

Make your sleep period as close to the real one as possible, i.e. if you actually fall asleep around 23:00, set your sleep start at 22:45, not 22:30 or 22:00…

Try to move around a bit before calling it a day, you know brush your teeth last kind of thing… so any previous quiet period isn’t interpreted as the beginning of sleep and there’s a distinct change in activity levels.

Maybe change on which hand you wear the watch for the night?

@jorgefd78 From the videos I’ve seen, the interface looks exactly like S9/5/3, so I’d guess yes, one alarm and one timer.

wakarimasen

@nickk My experience with Polar watches has been really good - the Vantage V was pretty much spot-on all the time.
It’s not the most important thing for me though, and indeed is only really some form of an estimation in the end.
I’ll try your suggestions, and see if I can find a way. Thanks!

@nickk My experience with Polar watches has been really good

Funny enough, S9B is mostly spot on while all Polar products with Sleep+ and then Sleep+ Stages were off for me. Every 2-3 nights the watch would miss either the sleep start, end, or both. Sometimes by an hour and more making the whole Night Recharge that relies on specific 4-hour window kind of moot.

Since then I switched back to HRV4T and I’m a happy camper.

wakarimasen

@nickk Just goes to show that all of these things - heart rate, sleep tracking - can be kind of personal in the way they work.

What do you mean by HRV4T? (OK - Google comes to the rescue!)

@wakarimasen

http://www.hrv4t.com

Brad_Olwin

@nickk I switch watches fairly often during the day and have found that resources generally agree between them, it may take an hour or so for the watch to stabilize but my S9 Peak and S7 as well as S9baro will fairly closely match resources even if I was wearing one for an entire week (S9 Peak) the S7 after an hour of wear will be similar. So, no real worries about missing data or issues following updates.

@brad_olwin Wait, what are you saying? That I can go from one watch to another and within an hour or two the second watch will pick up the Resources as reported on the first? I.e. if I’m walking around in S7 and it shows 63% and then I switch to S9, the latter will be reporting 55-60% soon?

Because that would be awesome. In Garmin world, body battery aka Resources isn’t synced still, unlike other stuff. So, switching from one watch to another will blindly reset the value to 45% regardless of what it was.

And with S9, I’m seeing random jumps in values, both down and up, as well as this unfortunate drop that occurs when the watch is being charged as confirmed by @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos. But luckily I don’t have to charge S9 every day and funky moves happen every now and then, not a daily occurrence.

Brad_Olwin

@nickk It seems to be fairly reliable for me. I know the Resources is likely read from HRV and that readings are taken about every 30 min. I keep close tabs on this just to see how it is doing. Most of the time the watches agree, not always but mostly. Even if I did not run with the particular watch! Today I ran with 3, Peak, baro and S7, the Peak is 41%, S7 at 33% (Peak has been on the table for an hour). I’ll put the Peak back on and see what happens. The Peak got an update today and the S7 did not, I did not sleep with the S7 last night.

pavel.samokha

@jthomi

Spartan Sport without WHR is also quite thin watch.

@brad_olwin So, how do you synchronize multiple watches with the Suunto app? Forget one device and add another, or have multiple phones and let cloud do its magic?

Brad_Olwin

@nickk One phone iOS, forget one Watch and add another. So far, six watches.

@brad_olwin That’s dedication! Let me try it I’d only have to switch between S7 and S9 and hope @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos sacrifices some small furry animal for Gods of Suunto to give us vibration-only notifications for when Peak comes out.

… Or multiple devices under Suunto app. I can be reasonable

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk easy switch ?