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    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ink357
    last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 11:49

    @ink357 when the real route is prone to be bad , for example new York running cannyons etc or even a race you can just get the theoritical route , and not worry why your watch gps went south adding 1-5km more or less.

    Since you want to see the real route , just don’t use this feature 😁

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      chrisc92 Bronze Member @ink357
      last edited by chrisc92 19 Jun 2021, 11:50

      @ink357 that is exactly what it does , when I run on a route the GPS doesn’t record the exact route because of trees , direction changes, wheater. So the pace is not often true .
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      The route is not he theoretical path it is where I ran exactly. GPS make people run through building or water this is not true

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        chrisc92 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by chrisc92 19 Jun 2021, 12:01

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in [Real world data](

        Since you want to see the real route , just don’t use this feature 😁

        Ten year running around this small duck pond , people thought I was cuting the edges 😃
        So what is the real route ?
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          ink357 @chrisc92
          last edited by ink357 19 Jun 2021, 12:37

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @chrisc92 said in Real world data:

          The route is not he theoretical path it is where I ran exactly. GPS make people run through building or water this is not true

          I run a lot in trail and I often have to miss the “real” path or cut through wood.
          I worry about the fact that the software “forces” my route on the theoretical route

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ink357
            last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 12:40

            @ink357 then don’t use it 😀 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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              A Former User @ink357
              last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 15:22

              @ink357 I did a trail run test yesterday, a single 5K-ish loop through the forest. I did follow the planned route. My S9P showed 3.07 mile (correct) and my F6X showed 2.81 miles, off by roughly 9%. Some of it might have been due to footpod, some due to auto pause when I was stopping to take pictures. Though needless to say, S9P was in exact same situation.

              Now imagine same error for a marathon distance!

              While snap-to-route has its limitations (I showed some above), I think it’s working pretty darn well when you stay close to intended route and trail info is reasonably accurate in the maps. Yes, this won’t help everyone in every situation, and yes, there might be some weird glitches every now and then, but given a choice I’d take that over 9% error.

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                ChrisA Platinum Member @ink357
                last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 15:51

                @ink357 you can always run like before - no worry. But I understand that it’s useless when there is no real path to follow. I like it because you now really get the km an the pace you planned even when gps isn’t that good e.g in the woods. Run the other day and the track is just awesome exactly there where I actually ran 😎:

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                Instead of (though it’s also ok for me) me looking like running drunk through the Forrest:

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                  pschenn
                  last edited by pschenn 19 Jun 2021, 16:48

                  Today I charged the S9P for the first time from 13% to 100% and it took only 52 minutes!

                  Up to 80% took only 25 minutes. After 90% things slowed down a little bit. In the last 2 minutes, it snapped suddenly from 95 to 100%, probably due to a recalibration of the battery since it was the first time…

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                    freeheeler @chrisc92
                    last edited by freeheeler 19 Jun 2021, 16:51

                    @chrisc92 said in Real world data:

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                    this pic reminds me of ISO GPS class and examples 🤓

                    living sideways

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                      v.sacre Silver Members
                      last edited by 19 Jun 2021, 16:59

                      Tested Snap to route feature this afternoon.
                      Really nice feature if you want to realize accurate workouts on a known path or in urban/Forest environment. Or la f you get the official gpx from a race for example.

                      Else, I probably won’t use it for normal session

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                        Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member @fazel
                        last edited by Theo Lakerveld 19 Jun 2021, 17:00

                        @fazel I’m typically doing around 60 min at ftp once a week. Usually devided as 4x15 or 3x20. This time I decided to go for the KOM. 😎

                        Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                          Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member
                          last edited by Theo Lakerveld 19 Jun 2021, 17:07

                          Longer eazy run today. GPS was spot on, even underneath dense tree cover. OHR complied with perceived exertion: https://strava.app.link/cRDMubZKdhb

                          Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                            fazel Bronze Member @Theo Lakerveld
                            last edited by 20 Jun 2021, 00:45

                            @theo-lakerveld Awesome.

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                              ink357 @Theo Lakerveld
                              last edited by 20 Jun 2021, 09:38

                              @theo-lakerveld nice dog!

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                                chrisc92 Bronze Member @isazi
                                last edited by chrisc92 21 Jun 2021, 08:58

                                @isazi amazing bike trace this morning in GPS (+Glonass/Qzss) : in the wooden area the track overrides the route , almost like a snap to route :

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                                I add to zoom to see the route :
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                                  ink357
                                  last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 09:34

                                  Did somebody test the route tracking ? Any GPS losses ?

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                                    Mff73 @ink357
                                    last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 09:41

                                    @ink357 said in Real world data:

                                    Did somebody test the route tracking ? Any GPS losses ?

                                    maybe me 🙂
                                    I was navigating a route while exercising, and a couple of times i was out of route, but it came back quickly. So i didn’t notice too much.
                                    But once, i was looking at route screen, and GPS was lost at this time.
                                    Is it what you mentionned ?

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                                      surfboomerang @ink357
                                      last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 09:49

                                      @ink357 I did. Only once I noticed ETA was displayed as “–” and restored itself after a short time. I’m not sure if is because of a reception problem.

                                      I did notice that the track was incredible close to the route so I don’t think accuracy is an issue in the open field. Didn’t try the forests yet.

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                                        ink357 @Mff73
                                        last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 10:49

                                        @mff73 exactly. I use to trail on routes i don’t know and the route tracking is very important to me (i also take a map and my phone). In the last workout i made with my S9B, there were a lot of GPS losses. It could be boring…

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                                          Mff73 @pschenn
                                          last edited by 21 Jun 2021, 14:25

                                          @pschenn said in Real world data:

                                          Today I charged the S9P for the first time from 13% to 100% and it took only 52 minutes!

                                          Up to 80% took only 25 minutes. After 90% things slowed down a little bit. In the last 2 minutes, it snapped suddenly from 95 to 100%, probably due to a recalibration of the battery since it was the first time…

                                          e07a4704-098a-4c0f-9d41-bf8dec195e8f-image.png

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                                          I did the same test as you, but like a lazy guy 🙂
                                          I let the watch register the data with a non GPS, non HR mode, and let QS show me the result 🙂
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                                          From 33% to 100% in 43min with same pattern 😉
                                          80% reached in 17min, wow !

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