Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9
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@tyresej4 said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:
@ierisch I used the Polar Vantage M for like a week and immediately sold it. That’s probably the last Polar device that I’ll try. Felt cheap and just wasn’t for me. I’ve never tried Coros. I’ll stick with Garmin and Suunto.
COROS are decent but you need to spend up on their more expensive models. I’ve had the APEX and it felt like I was wearing a $10 watch. Very plasticy and didn’t have a quality feel or look to it at all
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@tyresej4 Have a look on the Grit X Pro - it’s one of the best looking watches from Polar IMO and of excellent build quality (very much like a S9B).
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@chrisa said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:
@tyresej4 Have a look on the Grit X Pro - it’s one of the best looking watches from Polar IMO and of excellent build quality (very much like a S9B).
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I bought the S9P (moss grey) a couple of weeks ago. It’s a really nice watch and VERY comfortable to wear. But I have two of issues with it.
- Buttons: I don’t like the clicking sound, and they are very hard to operate with gloves on
- Screen: With standby light permanently on, it looks good. But during a workout, I can hardly read what’s on the screen. There are just too much reflections.
So I bought a S9 Baro. The buttons are a lot easier to operate with gloves on (and no sound). The contrast of the screen might be worse than the screen of the S9P, but it is much more readable. In direct sunlight it looks gorgeous, and even in shadows readabilty is much better than on the S9P. Size seems to matter.
Now I have two great watches. Unfortunately the Suunto platform is not capable of syncing data between watches. So most of the screens on the watches are pretty useless, when you use more than one Suunto device (training plan, resources, hr, sleep,… half of the data is missing).
I am still unsure which watch I should keep. S9P is more comfortable for 24/7 usage, S9B is better in training…
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@wmichi Data should integrate with switching watches connected to the same account. However, data do not sync from the app to the watch.
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@wmichi
depending what type you are and if you want more items with very similar functions… then you could keep both and use S9P for “casual”, which might be a bit overkill, and you could use S9B for sports.I learned for myself that I only want one watch, even I think sometimes it would be nice to have several watches, I think for me personally it is cumbersome and exaggerated.
I think I would use both for couple of weeks and see which watch I like better and then get rid of the other one
I would like to see a bigger version of S9P as a potential successor of my X-Alps some time in the future… hopefully not too soon. I think the clicks wouldn’t bother me. I tried them in a shop recently. But the tiny buttons would definitely bother me, since I really want to operate my watch with gloves!
I remember that it was one of the selling points of the Vector… don’t know why this should have changed, unless the customer they’re targeting have changed
living sideways
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@wmichi I think the same about the buttons of the S9P. Difficult to operate with gloves. I put this into all surveys
For me the S9P has become my daily driver also mainly because it has such a good wrist HR measurement.
I still cannot get rid of my S9B Ambassador Edition. It’s like a collectible… -
@freeheeler Yes, it’s absolutely exaggerated and pure luxury. I think I was the target audience for something in between those two watches. Something you have called S9PXL multiple times in the forum
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@freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:
I learned for myself that I only want one watch, even I think sometimes it would be nice to have several watches, I think for me personally it is cumbersome and exaggerated.
I am also a 1 watch person. S9P is my main driver, the watch I use for sports and that I wear during the day to check time. All the others are for testing.
In the past I tried to have more than one watch (S7 + S9B) but it did not work for me.
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@wmichi what exaclty would differentiate the S9PXL from the S9B?
Just OTA updates and SpO2 would not make a big difference in day to day use.
I can just think of improved OHR otherwise.
What would make S9PXL different?t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S All Black, Race S Titanium Canary
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@egika a lot different things, in my opinion. Bigger battery, thinner bezel, maps, bigger storage (e.g. for maps and/or music), dual frequency gps chip. All this while maintaining the design language and keeping the watch body at the same thickness. One can argue that it will no longer be S9p XL, but S9 gen 2 or something - but so be it then:)
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@egika If I was Suunto, I would build something like that:
- Similar design language as S9P
- But with bigger, less noisy buttons
- Same diameter as S9B, but lower height. This would make the watch larger, but less bulky (less movement -> better OHR). If possible (antenna design), smaller black bezels around the display would be a nice touch
- Better vibrations and louder alarms (customizable per sport mode)
- A faster processor. Stability can not be an excuse for a sluggish UX
- All the rest the same as S9P
So regarding the hardware, basically a larger display and better performance. Of course a better battery is always nice, too. Regarding GPS I am very happy with the S9P. Do the latest S9B Titanium (blue and charcoal) have the same GPS chipset as the S9P?
OTA is standard nowadays, so it should be included (and I am pretty sure it will be in all future Suunto watches). I agree, SpO2 does not really make difference. In my opinion it is even completely useless for most people. But Suunto could add blood sugar and blood pressure measurement (of course on a medical level). That might be interesting for some people
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@dmytro ok, got it now. This would indeed be “design your preferred Suunto model out of what is out there”
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@egika haha, exactly! Like current suunto customiser but more in depth.
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@egika
position of the baro holes… I frequently need to be cautious to not block the holes on my S9B.living sideways
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@freeheeler said in Why I've shelved my Peak for a 9:
position of the baro holes… I frequently need to be cautious to not block the holes on my S9B.
I wonder about that too whenever I wear long sleeves as I like my watch sitting pretty tight on the wrist
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@freeheeler baro holes - it seems to be difficult with every position:
Ambit hat them underneath afaik
S9B on the left: issues with clothes or wind for left handers
S9P on the bottom: issues with rain or snow falling on it, because holes pointing skywards during arm swing.It’s not easy and some data processing needs to be applied in AL cases…
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You can have two baro sensors at different place to cancel the noise of the other.
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@lexterm77 first of all, you’ll need to put another sensor there, doubling the cost of that component, and the space it takes. Second, two sensors would be for fault tolerance if one suddenly drops dead, but it is no help for different behavior. You would need at least three to have a tiebreaker in case two sensors show different results.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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Cost of machining titanium outweights the cost of baro
. My S9B lost its baro accuracy over the years, when I calibrate my altitude baro is 6mbar off. X lander had calibration menu is there such thing on S9B hidden in fw?
