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New software update for S9P-S9B-S9-S5P-S5 and S3 devices 2.20.28

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    Chris Conway Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
    last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 17:57

    @brad_olwin Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll contact them. I doubt its the OHR module though, its worked flawlessly since I purchased it, right up until the update. After further testing it seems to work fine now on my non-tattood wrist, so for sure the updated “wrist detection” is causing the device to no longer detect my wrist. Would be great if these kinds of additions are optional to toggle on or off…

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      wmichi
      last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 17:57

      My opinions on the TrainingPeaks integration:

      • Alarms when out of the target zone are missing. This is a must.
      • I miss a countdown 5s before the next segments start (beeping and vibrations)
      • Why has the target heart rate a slightly larger font as the currently measured value? I think it should be the other way around: current value large, target value smaller (we already have the gauge as the primary indicator of the target)
      • Planned workouts of activity type “XC Ski” should also be automatically suggested for roller skiing on the watch.

      All in all Suunto Plus Guides seem to be a great addition to the Suunto platform, it’s a solid base for future developments. Thanks Suunto 🙂

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        MdzOtt
        last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 18:59

        interestingly, this time there was no “alarm” in SA that the new update (firmware) was available. I think that it was there the last time around. If not for this post, I would not know that the update was available. I might have missed it by a few days (:-).

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          DMytro @MdzOtt
          last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 19:03

          @mdzott maybe it’s because the release is staged?

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            MdzOtt @DMytro
            last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 19:10

            @dmytro i am downloading right now (literally)

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              isazi Moderator @wmichi
              last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 19:17

              @wmichi all your suggestions have been reported to Suunto by most testers. This is only the first version and it will improve.

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

              Blog: isazi's home

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                TyreseJ4
                last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 19:48

                Very cool so far! I assume along as you have the workouts created in TP set to “always available,”they’ll be ready for use even though you don’t have a premium membership on TP that allows you to schedule and R/S on the whim. I’ve already created several workouts in TP. Definitely a learning curve if you’ve never used the program. But it’s still cool!

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                  nseslija Bronze Member @DMytro
                  last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 19:59

                  @dmytro free plan from suunto

                  https://www.trainingpeaks.com/training-plans/running/trail/tp-334450/suunto-12-week-mountain-race-preparation-by-max-king

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                    DMytro
                    last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 20:01

                    Just a small improvement suggestion: make all workouts planned for a specific week sync directly to the watch, without the need of toggle. Toggle makes sense for routes and s+, but with 3-4 workouts a week select/deselect them manually is a bit cumbersome.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @DMytro
                      last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 20:25

                      @dmytro for me it does exactly this:
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                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                        DMytro @Egika
                        last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 20:33

                        @egika ah nice! So ‘always available’ toggle is for the exercises that are due this week?

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                          Egika Platinum Member
                          last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 20:44

                          @dmytro no. The upcoming planned activities are in the app and watch (as a as memory allows).
                          Every Guide has this toggle to make in permanent and last beyond it’s planned date.

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            wmichi @Egika
                            last edited by wmichi 29 Mar 2022, 20:45

                            @egika So, when I create a workout for today the workout gets synced to SA. When today passes, it gets automatically removed from this list. Except when I turn the switch on. This way it stays forever on the watch, right?

                            Edit: You answered the question while I was writing this comment 😉

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator
                              last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 Mar 2022, 21:10

                              A bit of clarification for those of you using TrainingPeaks. You do not need a structured workout to have the Guides work.

                              First, a structured workout is not necessary! And if you are like me the vertical ascent for he workout is important so, if you have time, distance and gain loaded into TrainingPeaks like this your watch will have ascent as a value.
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                              and, if I am visiting Suunto in Finland and ascent is virtually hopeless, you can leave out the ascent requirement and the field does not show.
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                              This is fantastic and again Kudos to Suunto Devs!!!

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @DMytro
                                last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 Mar 2022, 21:47

                                @dmytro said in New software update for S9P-S9B-S9-S5P-S5 and S3 devices 2.20.28:

                                Just a small improvement suggestion: make all workouts planned for a specific week sync directly to the watch, without the need of toggle. Toggle makes sense for routes and s+, but with 3-4 workouts a week select/deselect them manually is a bit cumbersome.

                                You do not have to toggle! If you have two workouts planned, strength and running for example when you pick a run the watch will ask if you want to load the Guide for the run for that day when you select the exercise, same for strength when you select strength training!

                                The toggle is to keep a specific Guide in the watch always. Say for example you use a stretching routine daily or often that you do not want to add to TrainingPeaks every time you use it. Create it once, toggle always on in the watch and no matter whether you have synced new Guides or not the specific stretching routine will always be there.

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  DMytro @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 22:12

                                  @brad_olwin is there a trick to do a repetition based workouts? E.g. 10 pushups, than 15 sit-ups, etc.

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                                    herlas Silver Members @DMytro
                                    last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 22:16

                                    @dmytro also interested in this, I guess you’re asking about TP workouts, let’s see what others say 🤞

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                                      DMytro @herlas
                                      last edited by 29 Mar 2022, 22:20

                                      @herlas TP would work fine, but I could also use intervals.icu, if it would work better in some regards.

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @DMytro
                                        last edited by Brad_Olwin 29 Mar 2022, 22:23

                                        @dmytro said in New software update for S9P-S9B-S9-S5P-S5 and S3 devices 2.20.28:

                                        @brad_olwin is there a trick to do a repetition based workouts? E.g. 10 pushups, than 15 sit-ups, etc.

                                        This is a bit harder, I would in TP set up a structured workout, figure out how long it will take to do 10 pushups then label the interval as 10 pushups and just use duration as your set, then a minute rest (or whatever and then label the next 15 sit ups (again set the duration of the interval for the time you need). It might look like the set below. This will be some work to set up in TP so this is one I would save in TP as a workout so you can easily add it anytime. The titles for the intervals will show in the watch.
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                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          isazi Moderator @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 30 Mar 2022, 07:34

                                          @brad_olwin and you can overestimate how long does it take, and use the lap button to move to next step.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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