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    Mff73
    last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:35

    I read here and there, that the new GPS capability of having 4 GPS system working at the same time, is “only for one mode”.
    What does it mean ? One sport mode ? One battery mode ? else ?

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    and

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      lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
      last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:37

      @isazi

      Is this app taking only data from stryd or is it combining it with watches sensors?

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        zhang965 @Mff73
        last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:37

        @Mff73 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

        I read here and there, that the new GPS capability of having 4 GPS system working at the same time, is “only for one mode”.
        What does it mean ? One sport mode ? One battery mode ? else ?

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        and

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        I’m waiting for s9pp’s user guide

        Winners Wear Winners

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          isazi Moderator @Mff73
          last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:38

          @Mff73 meaning that’s the only mode. No more choosing “GPS only” or “GPS+whatever”. That’s it, single mode, all systems enabled.

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            isazi Moderator @lexterm77
            last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:39

            @lexterm77 just Stryd. It is already available in S+ store for testing.

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              Mff73 @isazi
              last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:41

              @isazi
              Eager to see what it gives, thanks.
              Few reviews are not saying that accuracy is that exceptionnal, just normal. Let see in my area, accuracy is quite personnal feeling 🙂 and area/time dependant.

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                isazi Moderator @Mff73
                last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:46

                @Mff73 exactly what you say. What the all systems mode does is allow the watch to pick the best combination of satellites from a larger pool (at most 32). In areas with good visibility of the sky, it may not make any difference at all, in other areas it will depend on how many, and which, satellites are visible. As with everything else GPS related, it changes constantly because we move, satellites move, and management of the satellites changes.

                I appreciate that users do not have to perform divination anymore to decide which system will they use, the watch decides.

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                  Mff73 @isazi
                  last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:54

                  @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                  users do not have to perform divination anymore to decide which system will they use, the watch decides.

                  exactely. My SSU is only glonass capable, and i tried it few times at the beginning, not sure to see difference, but maybe just not the right day/position, to see any gain.
                  Thus, it would have been divination, as you said, to enable it one day or the other.
                  Added the fact that on old watches, battery consumption for extra satellite system was increased.

                  Good, really good.

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                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
                    last edited by lexterm77 13 Oct 2022, 12:09

                    @isazi

                    Is power working in power walking mode when you trail run? (Steep low cadence) or it goes to zero?

                    If it does, who needs stryd complications 😄

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                      isazi Moderator @lexterm77
                      last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:26

                      @lexterm77 it does not go to zero while walking, but I only tested power on roads, no trails. For trails, ask @Brad_Olwin

                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                        taziden Gold Members @isazi
                        last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:32

                        @isazi do you know if the values are somehow similar to those given by stryd or like shifted by 50W or something like garmin?

                        S9PP

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                          isazi Moderator @taziden
                          last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:35

                          @taziden close to Stryd, of course not matching exactly because there is no running power standard.

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                            taziden Gold Members @isazi
                            last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:35

                            @isazi yes, of course. Thx!

                            S9PP

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                              TyreseJ4 @isazi
                              last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:20

                              @isazi If “dez” is Desfit, he did review the Suunto 9 Peak. I’m not a fan of his channel but I do remember this review: https://youtu.be/q0xYbvZztIA

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                                lexterm77 Bronze Member @taziden
                                last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:28

                                @taziden

                                I think Stryd does not account for springiness of legs but “metabolic” cost, but I think metabolic cost has much more variables that can be accounted with a motion sensor and they are assumed to be average.

                                I don’t think power will be standardized any time soon. You need at least volume, density, morphology, interaction between your feet and surface (metabolic cost of running on sand>solid ground). Vs load cell with cycling which is makes it so simple.

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @northeast_trekker
                                  last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:41

                                  @northeast_trekker said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                  @Egika Thanks that is helpful. I like the auto scroll. Wish ascent was there
                                  Me too!

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                                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:46

                                    @Brad_Olwin

                                    Your thoughts on wrist power while power walking on S9PP?
                                    What is useful response time for hill repeats?

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                                      last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:48

                                      @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                      @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                      @mountainChris I believe it is only for running/trail running sports mode.

                                      Is it possible to show both power data (wrist and stryd) on same activity?

                                      If you use the S+ app, yes but I doubt this will work for fine release. I have a lot of trail running with Stryd and the Pro, the are very close. I can provide graphs if you wish.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        herlas Silver Members @isazi
                                        last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:50

                                        @isazi Stryd app is yet to appear in Suunto + store 🤔

                                        Yesterday I tested cadence coach S+ and it was not bad, it was alerting me about high cadence around 92 🙂 and when it came the time to do some manual laps during my run I learned this activates the run 1 min at desired target cadence to set it.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                                          last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:52

                                          @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                          @isazi

                                          Is power working in power walking mode when you trail run? (Steep low cadence) or it goes to zero?

                                          If it does, who needs stryd complications 😄

                                          It works very similarly to Stryd so yes, power walking is recorded. Values for endurance running and power hiking on Pro match Stryd well for me. We are still working on wrist power so likely to be even better when release firmware is available. I have not used my Stryd much until this testing and I find I use wrist power much more than I did the Stryd because of being another gadget, battery life, water ingress, etc. of Stryd

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