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    isazi Moderator @Mff73
    last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:46

    @Mff73 exactly what you say. What the all systems mode does is allow the watch to pick the best combination of satellites from a larger pool (at most 32). In areas with good visibility of the sky, it may not make any difference at all, in other areas it will depend on how many, and which, satellites are visible. As with everything else GPS related, it changes constantly because we move, satellites move, and management of the satellites changes.

    I appreciate that users do not have to perform divination anymore to decide which system will they use, the watch decides.

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      Mff73 @isazi
      last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 11:54

      @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

      users do not have to perform divination anymore to decide which system will they use, the watch decides.

      exactely. My SSU is only glonass capable, and i tried it few times at the beginning, not sure to see difference, but maybe just not the right day/position, to see any gain.
      Thus, it would have been divination, as you said, to enable it one day or the other.
      Added the fact that on old watches, battery consumption for extra satellite system was increased.

      Good, really good.

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        lexterm77 Bronze Member @isazi
        last edited by lexterm77 13 Oct 2022, 12:09

        @isazi

        Is power working in power walking mode when you trail run? (Steep low cadence) or it goes to zero?

        If it does, who needs stryd complications πŸ˜„

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          isazi Moderator @lexterm77
          last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:26

          @lexterm77 it does not go to zero while walking, but I only tested power on roads, no trails. For trails, ask @Brad_Olwin

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            taziden Gold Members @isazi
            last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:32

            @isazi do you know if the values are somehow similar to those given by stryd or like shifted by 50W or something like garmin?

            S9PP

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              isazi Moderator @taziden
              last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:35

              @taziden close to Stryd, of course not matching exactly because there is no running power standard.

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                taziden Gold Members @isazi
                last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 12:35

                @isazi yes, of course. Thx!

                S9PP

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                  TyreseJ4 @isazi
                  last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:20

                  @isazi If β€œdez” is Desfit, he did review the Suunto 9 Peak. I’m not a fan of his channel but I do remember this review: https://youtu.be/q0xYbvZztIA

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                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @taziden
                    last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:28

                    @taziden

                    I think Stryd does not account for springiness of legs but β€œmetabolic” cost, but I think metabolic cost has much more variables that can be accounted with a motion sensor and they are assumed to be average.

                    I don’t think power will be standardized any time soon. You need at least volume, density, morphology, interaction between your feet and surface (metabolic cost of running on sand>solid ground). Vs load cell with cycling which is makes it so simple.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @northeast_trekker
                      last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:41

                      @northeast_trekker said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                      @Egika Thanks that is helpful. I like the auto scroll. Wish ascent was there
                      Me too!

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:46

                        @Brad_Olwin

                        Your thoughts on wrist power while power walking on S9PP?
                        What is useful response time for hill repeats?

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                          last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:48

                          @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                          @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                          @mountainChris I believe it is only for running/trail running sports mode.

                          Is it possible to show both power data (wrist and stryd) on same activity?

                          If you use the S+ app, yes but I doubt this will work for fine release. I have a lot of trail running with Stryd and the Pro, the are very close. I can provide graphs if you wish.

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            herlas Silver Members @isazi
                            last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:50

                            @isazi Stryd app is yet to appear in Suunto + store πŸ€”

                            Yesterday I tested cadence coach S+ and it was not bad, it was alerting me about high cadence around 92 πŸ™‚ and when it came the time to do some manual laps during my run I learned this activates the run 1 min at desired target cadence to set it.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                              last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:52

                              @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                              @isazi

                              Is power working in power walking mode when you trail run? (Steep low cadence) or it goes to zero?

                              If it does, who needs stryd complications πŸ˜„

                              It works very similarly to Stryd so yes, power walking is recorded. Values for endurance running and power hiking on Pro match Stryd well for me. We are still working on wrist power so likely to be even better when release firmware is available. I have not used my Stryd much until this testing and I find I use wrist power much more than I did the Stryd because of being another gadget, battery life, water ingress, etc. of Stryd

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @taziden
                                last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:53

                                @taziden said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                @isazi do you know if the values are somehow similar to those given by stryd or like shifted by 50W or something like garmin?

                                Very similar to Stryd NOT like Garmin!

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                                  last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:57

                                  @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                  @Brad_Olwin

                                  Your thoughts on wrist power while power walking on S9PP?
                                  What is useful response time for hill repeats?

                                  Response time is excellent. So far my only issue max watts on hard trail hill repeats is a bit lower with 9 Pro than Stryd. We are still testing this so it is likely to improve. I can live with this and tweak a bit my watt zones at the high end if necessary but it won’t be much. After final firmware release I will either sell my Stryd or likely it will rest in a box. I won’t use it unless I am testing

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 13:58

                                    @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                    @lexterm77 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                    @isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                    @mountainChris I believe it is only for running/trail running sports mode.

                                    Is it possible to show both power data (wrist and stryd) on same activity?

                                    If you use the S+ app, yes but I doubt this will work for fine release. I have a lot of trail running with Stryd and the Pro, the are very close. I can provide graphs if you wish.

                                    Yes please, hill repeats 30s and low cadence steep climbs. I know new stryd is up in Nov, they claim to help reduce lag by 5x. And is there a breakdown of form (gravity fighting and vertical) and fwd motion?

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @lexterm77
                                      last edited by Brad_Olwin 13 Oct 2022, 14:05

                                      @lexterm77
                                      Here

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                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 13 Oct 2022, 14:06

                                        It works very similarly to Stryd so yes, power walking is recorded. Values for endurance running and power hiking on Pro match Stryd well for me. We are still working on wrist power so likely to be even better when release firmware is available. I have not used my Stryd much until this testing and I find I use wrist power much more than I did the Stryd because of being another gadget, battery life, water ingress, etc. of Stryd

                                        Yes, I would get rid of it, when It rains it is completely useless.

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                                          lexterm77 Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by lexterm77 13 Oct 2022, 14:12

                                          @Brad_Olwin

                                          On that chart, S9P has wrist power or?

                                          Edit: Nevermind, its altitude

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