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    wakarimasen Silver Members @freeheeler
    last edited by 29 Oct 2022, 22:32

    @freeheeler that’s because your wallet is lighter 😊

    Suunto Race Titanium
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    Polar OH1

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      taziden Gold Members
      last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 09:55

      After today’s run, I’ve had a message with a green background and a check mark saying : “Marche étalonnée”.

      Does anyone know what this means?

      From a quick search, it seems related to FusedTrack and the Endurance mode on S9 models.

      (Sorry if I’m being too curious :D)

      S9PP

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        freeheeler @taziden
        last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 10:42

        @taziden
        did you use running activity for the first time today? I think the watch does that when you first use activity by feet

        living sideways

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          dulko79
          last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 10:50

          Yes, if used first time for running it could be stride length calibration.

          App: beta
          Phone: Iphone
          iOS

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            taziden Gold Members @freeheeler
            last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 10:56

            @freeheeler it was the second time.

            S9PP

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              A Former User
              last edited by A Former User 30 Oct 2022, 14:39

              Like the new UI very much!
              There is no disadvantage to larger S9B Display!
              Same size of numbers and better readability!
              Well done!

              What I really do not like is OHR!
              Highly inaccurate for me personally.
              First hike today with S9B and smart sensor on the other wrist.
              I couldn’t feel any improvement from S9P.
              Little disappointing.

              Again this is really depending for sure on personal individual circumstances.
              I made superior OHR experiences with 945LTE.
              So it is possible.
              There has to be some thing on all Suunto OHRs what disqualifies OHR of watch for certain persons…
              Is it missing, failing calibration, depth of measurements, … why watch works not for all?

              Edit: Interesting thing is that running, cycling was very good S9P. But hiking mountaineering very bad. Same on S9PP for now. Also without poles. Maybe hiking cadence lock? It could also be something that has to do with hiking movement…

              Maybe I hope there will be some SW improvement…

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                freeheeler @Guest
                last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 14:42

                @mountainChris
                I did a run today with S9B connected to Verity Sense and Grit X Pro… hell of a disappointment for the Grit X Pro for HR measurements!!

                do you mind sharing an overlay of the 2 graphs?

                living sideways

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                  A Former User @freeheeler
                  last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 14:47

                  @freeheeler yes. Is there a freeware tool to overlay?

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                    freeheeler @Guest
                    last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 14:58

                    @mountainChris
                    I use quantified-self.io for this… you can upload json files and merge them for direct comparison

                    living sideways

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                      Kurt68
                      last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 15:18

                      I’m pleasantly surprised at the battery life. It’s only a first short impression but in 24 hours the S9PP lost 7% battery. In the same time with the same use, the Fenix ​​7x 11%. I was not expecting that.

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                        A Former User @Guest
                        last edited by A Former User 30 Oct 2022, 17:02

                        For now I have no account for quantified-self.
                        But difference can also seen for now on SA screenshots.
                        In the middle I took off S9PP because of climbing down and up again.

                        First is S9B with Smart Sensor.
                        Second S9PP.
                        Especially hiking ascent values way too low.
                        I almost never had comparable values for 5 hours.
                        Only few times close together.
                        This behavior I know very well from S9P.

                        Average HR from SA during first 5km ascent (before climbing) was:
                        S9B with smart sensor: 122bpm
                        S9PP: 101bpm

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                        @mountainChris said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                        Like the new UI very much!
                        There is no disadvantage to larger S9B Display!
                        Same size of numbers and better readability!
                        Well done!

                        What I really do not like is OHR!
                        Highly inaccurate for me personally.
                        First hike today with S9B and smart sensor on the other wrist.
                        I couldn’t feel any improvement from S9P.
                        Little disappointing.

                        Again this is really depending for sure on personal individual circumstances.
                        I made superior OHR experiences with 945LTE.
                        So it is possible.
                        There has to be some thing on all Suunto OHRs what disqualifies OHR of watch for certain persons…
                        Is it missing, failing calibration, depth of measurements, … why watch works not for all?

                        Edit: Interesting thing is that running, cycling was very good S9P. But hiking mountaineering very bad. Same on S9PP for now. Also without poles. Maybe hiking cadence lock? It could also be something that has to do with hiking movement…

                        Maybe I hope there will be some SW improvement…

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                          freeheeler @Guest
                          last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 17:27

                          @mountainChris
                          ok, no need for an overlay… it looks very different!
                          it’s good to compare and get a picture about the behavior. I used to have issues with the chest belt, too.
                          so we can not for 100% what’s right or wrong.
                          of course for optical HR it is important that the watch sits snug on the wrist

                          living sideways

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                            A Former User @freeheeler
                            last edited by A Former User 30 Oct 2022, 17:30

                            @freeheeler
                            It did.
                            Have the new Smart Sensor, which works very well for me.
                            During cycling and flat running I saw almost the same values S9P vs. S9B (with smart sensor) this year.
                            Hiking never worked.
                            And can’t be that HR is falling during ascent or has this low levels.
                            On 945LTE I had always almost same values this year during hikes as Smart Sensor.

                            I more and more believe it has to do with the hiking movement, which is not as steady as running, and how watch deals with it.

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                              freeheeler @Guest
                              last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 17:35

                              @mountainChris
                              how’s running and cycling then with S9PP?

                              living sideways

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                                A Former User @freeheeler
                                last edited by A Former User 30 Oct 2022, 17:38

                                @freeheeler did not try… but would guess very good as S9P

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                                  Simon Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 17:57

                                  I think, there is not the one HR sensor that fits all. For me, there’s not a chance any built-in oHR of any watch will work. Too skinny 😄 And for a chest belt, I’m often not sweating enough, probably. But the Polar Verity Sense has always been spot on - loving it. And it’s easy enough to check manually when in doubt. Just try what works for you… Anyways, I have never seen a reliable and accurate built-in sensor so far.

                                  S9P Ti - ex Altimax, A3P, SV Ti

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                                    A Former User @Simon
                                    last edited by A Former User 30 Oct 2022, 18:04

                                    @Simon right for me in general. Thats why I was shooked how accurate S9P was for steady running, unfortunately not hiking. For hiking with 945LTE my values were almost same as smart sensor. But I thought this way before.

                                    Also skinny arms. For smart sensor I use gel on colder days which works fine for me.

                                    Those huge gaps are not understandable for hiking / mountaineering activity / movement and I wish that Suunto could check this and improvement would be welcome. 🙂

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel
                                      last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 20:19

                                      Can anyone please confirm that the display doesn’t interfere with polariser glasses? That it doesn’t dim when looking at it up front?

                                      S9PP 2.40.44

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                                        freeheeler @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                        last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 20:27

                                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                        it doesn’t at all

                                        living sideways

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @taziden
                                          last edited by 30 Oct 2022, 20:47

                                          @taziden this is about calibrating the internal accelerometer to your running style.
                                          It helps when running indoors.
                                          Second time because the fist time was either not long enough or GPS quality not good enough for the calibration to finish

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