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    dulko79
    last edited by 14 Jun 2023, 20:17

    I have had SVTS since the day it was launched. It is a big watch but for me comfortable to wear. Design is robust and elegant. I like the materials. I think it is the first sport watch it has not caused any allergic reaction on my wrist due to moisture, sweat etc. The screen is big and readable for me, colours I find vivid enough. I like the new watchface, I can display all the information I want to see during the day. Addition of new watchfaces and more customization would be very useful. User interface is simple but well structured, lag is noticeable but not annoying. With 1st battery charge I reached 21 days of use with running/walking activities just below 20 hours with best GPS. I do not use notifications but I have 24/7 HR tracking on. I had 1 crash on the second day of use when switching between widgets. I did 2 soft resets, one because I lost connection to SA, the other one I don’t remember. During running/walking activities I did not have a single crash. For running/walking I didn’t not use Suunto apps, but I did use custom sport modes. GPS tracking is perfect. I didn’t have problems with loading maps via wifi, but it took quite some time to download 2 maps. I mostly run/walk on same paths, so maps are not essential for me. I didn’t have any problems with maps, like black screen. However when switching between screens during sport activity map is loaded with a small lag, first black screen with white grid is shown then map is uploaded. For sport activities I use chest strap so I cannot evaluate OHR. For daily use OHR seems great. In HR graph in SA I do not see dropouts like I did with S9P. There are also no dropouts in Resources. Resources values reflect my feeling quite well, whether I am stressed at work or I rest on couch at home, trend going up or down. However, it seems I have not found correct RHR yet, as I have never reached 100 % Resources. Also big drops in Resources appear after sport activity. Sleeping tracking is OK, but it could be improved. Occasionally start of sleep is not detected correctly. End of sleep is triggered by morning alarm. Step tracking is too generous. It does not matter if the watch is for hard core users. If the function is there it should work as good as possible. Regarding bugs, I have noticed recovery time seems broken, everything else seems fine for my usecases. Maybe I missed something, but I find SVTS a great watch for my use. Software definitely needs some polishing for better and faster experience. Overall I miss more information from Suunto how to define HR/pace/power zones for beginners to get good insight on training from Suunto coach. Sleep tracking I find as one field that could and should be quite improved as it is input for Suunto coach. Suunto coach is great, I wish it would evolve further with daily suggestions and training plans. For me music and pay options are not relevant, for sport watch development should be focused on sport functions. I think Suunto released a great watch and I hope a good base is set up for further development of sport functions in the coming years. The watch does not need to have every possible data, but data that are tracked should be solid, reliable and give good feedback to the user. Suunto should not follow Garmin, producing new models every 6-12 months with prices above 1k €. Great job Suunto.

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      Tieutieu Platinum Member
      last edited by Tieutieu 20 Jun 2023, 16:14

      Hey folks !
      I have a question concerning maps updates.
      A few days ago, I have added a few trails on OpenStreetMap, that where missing around my place.
      They are now visible in SA, so I went to the conclusion that they should be available on the “last” version of the map of my region.
      So I uninstalled the map I had downloaded at first a month ago, and reinstalled it.
      But my corrections are not visible.
      So my question is : does someone knows how often are the maps updated ? Or is there a way to know map “version” (date ?)
      Thanks !

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        freeheeler @Tieutieu
        last edited by 20 Jun 2023, 18:01

        @Tieutieu
        the maps in the watch are not the same as the maps in SA, they are optimized and by my understanding with a lot of effort.
        as usual, there’s no schedule

        living sideways

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          Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
          last edited by 20 Jun 2023, 18:05

          @freeheeler said in Suunto Vertical is here:

          @Tieutieu
          the maps in the watch are not the same as the maps in SA, they are optimized and by my understanding with a lot of effort.
          as usual, there’s no schedule

          Ok thanks, I knew they where « optimized » but I had imagine they were updated at a similar rythm than OSM.

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          Vertical titanium solar
          Suunto Race S
          S9pp titanium sand
          Suunto Wing
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            Likarnik Bronze Member @freeheeler
            last edited by Likarnik 21 Jun 2023, 05:43

            @freeheeler this sounds like some poor guy has to manually do all the work 😄 I hope they get to the point that they have an algorithm for optimizing that is fast enough to periodically (at least weekly) check and optimize maps and then push it to SA 👍

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              isazi Moderator @Tieutieu
              last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 08:13

              @Tieutieu not for now, but the backend for faster map updates, an update process that will not require you to delete and download again the whole map, is being worked on.

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                Stefan Kersting @Tieutieu
                last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 09:55

                @Tieutieu how do you add such informastion on OpenStreepMap?

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                  freeheeler @Stefan Kersting
                  last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 11:34

                  @Stefan-Kersting
                  with a report directly to them
                  https://www.openstreetmap.org/fixthemap

                  living sideways

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                    Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
                    last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:40

                    @freeheeler said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                    @Stefan-Kersting
                    with a report directly to them
                    https://www.openstreetmap.org/fixthemap

                    Exactly. It is very easy to contribute. You easily can import a gps track and use it as a layer to correct existing map or add new objects (tracks, roads….)

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                    Vertical titanium solar
                    Suunto Race S
                    S9pp titanium sand
                    Suunto Wing
                    S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                      taziden Gold Members @Tieutieu
                      last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:44

                      @Tieutieu Imagine if we could do that from Suunto App directly 😓 😓 🌡

                      S9PP

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                        Mitch9 @taziden
                        last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:50

                        @taziden said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                        @Tieutieu Imagine if we could do that from Suunto App directly 😓 😓 🌡

                        I really think that is not so easy and imho not necessary. Just load the workout (not route!) as track on OSM and edit the map.

                        With the GNSS accuracy of the SV this is great.

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                          taziden Gold Members @Mitch9
                          last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:54

                          @Mitch9 said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                          @taziden said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                          @Tieutieu Imagine if we could do that from Suunto App directly 😓 😓 🌡

                          I really think that is not so easy and imho not necessary. Just load the workout (not route!) as track on OSM and edit the map.

                          With the GNSS accuracy of the SV this is great.

                          Sure, it’s just some more steps but a man can dream 🙂

                          S9PP

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                            Tieutieu Platinum Member @taziden
                            last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:57

                            @taziden said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                            @Tieutieu Imagine if we could do that from Suunto App directly 😓 😓 🌡

                            OMS is independent. And the fonctionnalities are quit « rich » : drawing and correction tools, attributes of objects (type, wide, ground, privacy…,.) IMHO it entirely justifies a dedicated interface.
                            I’d rather love SA to improve routes planning, for instance I would love that « when a track doesn’t exist on OMS, use the average path of heat maps to draw the route « .

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                            Vertical titanium solar
                            Suunto Race S
                            S9pp titanium sand
                            Suunto Wing
                            S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                              taziden Gold Members @Tieutieu
                              last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 12:58

                              @Tieutieu said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                              I’d rather love SA to improve routes planning, for instance I would love that « when a track doesn’t exist on OMS, use the average path of heat maps to draw the route « .

                              That would be great indeed!

                              S9PP

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                                dulko79
                                last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 19:04

                                Big survey just popped up to Vertical owners in SA, mostly about customer evaluation so far and about wishes for future functions/development.

                                App: beta
                                Phone: Iphone
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                                  DMytro @dulko79
                                  last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 19:06

                                  @dulko79 any highlights?

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                                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @DMytro
                                    last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 19:06

                                    @DMytro HRV measurement!?!?!?

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                                      DMytro @GiPFELKiND
                                      last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 19:07

                                      @GiPFELKiND this will for sure come to SV and s9pp

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                                        dulko79 @DMytro
                                        last edited by 21 Jun 2023, 20:32

                                        @DMytro I didm’t find anything new, mostly feedback from customers and rating of future functions already mentioned in previous surveys.

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                                        Phone: Iphone
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                                          rooldaa Silver Members @DMytro
                                          last edited by rooldaa 23 Jun 2023, 08:22

                                          @DMytro hi, how do you know that?

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