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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @dombo
    last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 12:49

    @dombo I will add my voice here too. During testing of the release firmware I had no crashes and none of the bugs you describe. I used the watch for two long ultra events with no issues, In those I used maps, a route and two S+ apps. I om sorry you are having the issues you have noted.

    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      EzioAuditore Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
      last edited by EzioAuditore 6 Jul 2023, 13:01 7 Jun 2023, 12:59

      @Brad_Olwin It’s software. The bugs will appear when you least expect them 😄

      Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
      Suunto Wing

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        dombo Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 13:25

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thank you for more detailed insights. less than a week sounds very good. fingers crossed.

        I don’t blame Suunto. I’m not saying that you guys did not do your job during testing. I know how hard (and almost impossible) is to deliver faultless product.

        I experienced the same issues as others are describing, so I do not judge based on what is written here only. And I know, that contacting support will not help me.

        I just wanted to say, that there might be big improvement to have list in this thread of acknowledged/known bugs (or you can call it whatever name you want) with possible workaround, so we do not have to discuss the same thing over and over.

        example:
        Huge battery drain during activity: do not use two S+ apps together and do not use weather widget.

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          freeheeler @dombo
          last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 13:45

          @dombo
          I didn’t have the impression that you’re complaining, rather commenting and sending logs 👍

          I sometimes also wish for such a list, but it is very dynamic and if people use the search function, they will discover issues, what works, what not and get confused.
          I think all critical issues are reported and being worked on to have them solved within reasonable time 🙂 👍

          living sideways

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            surfboomerang @dombo
            last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 13:45

            @dombo Such a list would prevent a lot of duplicate posts here

            Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
            OnePlus Nord 4

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              freeheeler @surfboomerang
              last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 13:47

              @surfboomerang
              🙂
              I don’t do such a list with my customers or service technicians either. they report, I’m aware, I evaluate and decide and solve internally.
              I prefer the teams to focus on solving, rather than communicating 😉 ✊

              living sideways

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                surfboomerang @freeheeler
                last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 13:58

                @freeheeler Understandable, but from a customer perspective it is a bit different I think.

                When you deliver feedback about the feature behavior it is not clear sometimes if it is a user error, it is by design or if it is just a bug. When Suunto investigates and acknowledge that it’s a bug, people stop searching for a solution and wait for an update.
                If it’s not acknowledged, people start speculating in all directions. Acknowleding the bug can also give the customer the feeling that their feedback is taken seriously and they will likely provide more feedback in the future instead of bashing the watch or brand.

                Also a short list can give users a quick overview of issues before they post about the same topic again. Especially new users can benefit from it.

                Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                OnePlus Nord 4

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                  GregDi
                  last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 16:14

                  I think i have found a bug :

                  When you chose dark mode on a sport mode, it’s been applied to all sports mode

                  Race Titanium Charcoal
                  Vertical Titanium Solar
                  Garmin Fenix 7X Pro Sapphire Solar
                  Garmin Fenix 6X Pro Solar
                  9 Baro Titanium Ambassador
                  9 Baro Titanium Red Bull X-Alps
                  9 Baro Titanium
                  Spartan Wrist HR Baro
                  Ambit3 Peak Sapphire Blue
                  Ambit2 Sapphire
                  Ambit1

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                    mikekoski490 Bronze Member @surfboomerang
                    last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 17:11

                    @surfboomerang I do want to acknowledge all of the moderators as well as volunteers on here who are trying to answer questions as best they can on behalf of Suunto - Suunto have a small staff, and I do rely and appreciate the feedback and community driven tech help on here more so than a corporate response via email.

                    Much more timely and real life, and I trust they are feeding peoples concerns here back to Suunto.

                    I think its very unique and I like it a lot.

                    I am one of the lucky ones who so far has not really had any issues (1 soft reset for maps and they have been good since then). Also remember initial reviews by DC Rainmaker etc were all good and I know that DC Rainmaker will report issues if he gets a device sent to him with pre-release buggy software, so lets hope those have issues are just a random few.

                    I also know from working for big companies that people with issues will be 90+ percent of the discussion, and well less than 10 percent pipe in with positive stuff! There are a LOT of Suunto Vertical users out there (didnt the first batch sell out?) with no need to come to this Suunto forum because their devices are working just fine.

                    …just my 2 cents.

                    Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                    Current: Suunto Race Ti

                    Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                    Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                      A Former User
                      last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 18:00

                      Dont know if this counts as a bug, but I’m a little surprised that the GPS accuracy on my Vertical is noticably worse than on my 9PP. And that’s with best accuracy enabled. It has me walking through buildings, has me walking in the middle of the street or in my neighbors yard. My 9PP isn’t perfect either, but it’s better. 🤔

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                        Walter Samuel
                        last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 18:44

                        Is the blood oxygen sensor functional? It doesn’t measure during the day and makes one record at night - always 100% - compared to a medical device, it’s nonsense.

                        Sleep measurement - I go to bed at 10 in the evening, wake up on the toilet for a few minutes at 3 in the morning and the watch makes a report, even when I go to sleep again. Instead of 8 hours of sleep, the watch will show only 5.

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                          mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Walter Samuel
                          last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 18:52

                          @Walter-Samuel I get the same blood oxygen reading as my past devices (garmin coros Suunto) overnight. Usually between 91 and 98. Maybe try a manual reading during the daytime.

                          Also make sure you set your sleep time do not disturb parameters. Mine is set to sleep at 11am and wake 630 am.

                          Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                          Current: Suunto Race Ti

                          Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                          Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                            Walter Samuel @mikekoski490
                            last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 18:55

                            @mikekoski490 Garmin was showing me between 90-92%. SV always shows below 90% during the day.

                            My sleep time is set to 22-06.
                            🤔

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                              Sascha Domres Bronze Member @dombo
                              last edited by 7 Jun 2023, 20:52

                              @dombo I really hope that there will be an update soon… I can’t rely on the software yet. for example today for the first time I couldn’t see a map while walking… I had to save the activity. I then switched off the Suunto+ apps and did a soft reset (30 seconds). After that everything went again… but it was very annoying! I hope they get it under control soon…I mean 800 EUR

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                                gone troppo Bronze Member @Sascha Domres
                                last edited by gone troppo 6 Jul 2023, 23:45 7 Jun 2023, 23:44

                                My vertical has been 99% excellent . Only glitch has been missed sleep by a few hours on a few nights it gets it most nights. And the resources had the 0% issue one day.

                                I don’t use pulse ox prefer they didn’t include this how many people actually use this? I just switch it off like I assume most people do

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                                  renton82 Platinum Member @gone troppo
                                  last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 05:34

                                  @gone-troppo Pulse OX is useless, it always reports 100% during night without any other graph or data.

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                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 20:57

                                    Hm, GPS tracks still don’t look very multibandish to me. Kinda wobbly and offset by several meters. 😲

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                                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @Guest
                                      last edited by Tieutieu 6 Aug 2023, 21:19 8 Jun 2023, 21:18

                                      @Ilya-Sul said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                      Hm, GPS tracks still don’t look very multibandish to me. Kinda wobbly and offset by several meters. 😲

                                      Are you talking about old ambit vertical ?! 😂
                                      Just kidding. My tracks are just awesome, including on steep and covered terrain. Are you in best gps mode ? That’s the only mode with dual band.

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                                      Vertical titanium solar
                                      Suunto Race S
                                      S9pp titanium sand
                                      Suunto Wing
                                      S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Guest
                                        last edited by mikekoski490 6 Aug 2023, 21:20 8 Jun 2023, 21:18

                                        @Ilya-Sul Can you share your conditions, type of activity, data and details like buildings/mountains etc? I have been super impressed with mine so far (did an out and back bike ride in the city yesterday and my outgoing and reverse tracks were are almost identical and show no wavering - Vertical on wrist). The one below is exactly how I rode through a short park and criss crossed an intersection from 2 different directions.Screenshot_20230608-141212~2.png Screenshot_20230608-141104~2.png

                                        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                        Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                          A Former User @mikekoski490
                                          last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 21:49

                                          @mikekoski490

                                          I’d say conditions are moderately challenging. Suburban environment without high rise buildings. My 9PP handles my walks much better atm.

                                          Let’s see what the upcoming update’ll bring to the table.

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