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    plisken @Łukasz Szmigiel
    last edited by 23 Aug 2023, 11:52

    @Łukasz-Szmigiel The power drain is not an issue for me, it is the fact that it does not automatically enter power saving mode as per the manual, which is not ideal.

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      mikekoski490 Bronze Member
      last edited by 4 Oct 2023, 03:30

      For some reason Vertical just stopped providing HR readings today at 6am for pretty much the whole day based on the SA graph. Confirmed that 24/7 hr recording is on. Toggled it off/on and still no reading. Powered off and on and now getting HR again.

      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

      Current: Suunto Race Ti

      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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        GiPFELKiND Silver Members @mikekoski490
        last edited by 4 Oct 2023, 03:51

        @mikekoski490 😬 so do you know the Problem?!

        If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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          mikekoski490 Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
          last edited by 4 Oct 2023, 04:22

          @GiPFELKiND No. In 4 months it’s never happened. Fixed with a reset.

          Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

          Current: Suunto Race Ti

          Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

          Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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            Mitch9 @mikekoski490
            last edited by 4 Oct 2023, 04:42

            @mikekoski490 said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

            @GiPFELKiND No. In 4 months it’s never happened. Fixed with a reset.

            I had the same problem some days ago. Soft reset fixed the hr reading.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (Sand)
            SA: Android (beta)
            HRS: Polar H10

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              jjpaz Bronze Member @mikekoski490
              last edited by 4 Oct 2023, 05:44

              @mikekoski490 I had the same problem several weeks ago. Also the “no map” issue was there at the same time, black map screen. After a soft reset all started to work again.
              Perhaps both issues were related, some memory buffer getting empty or something like that.

              Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                v.sacre Silver Members
                last edited by 5 Oct 2023, 10:44

                Got a bug for the first time today during my lunch run.
                Activity has been shutdown after about 1 km. The watch got back on the main screen. I had to restart another activity.
                Activity before the bug has been well recorded.
                Laps each km were activated and S+ fused zone as well.
                I suspect I got the crash because of the first lap (but it is strange as it is the first time I have this). But it is the first time I used laps and fused zone at the same time.

                A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
                Suunto Wing

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                  jjpaz Bronze Member @v.sacre
                  last edited by 5 Oct 2023, 11:00

                  @v-sacre That’s the already known “random reboot” while in activity, I think there are topics about it in the forum.
                  You can try to send logs to Suunto to help developers find the solution to the issue.

                  Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                    danklod
                    last edited by danklod 10 Sept 2023, 07:34 9 Oct 2023, 07:24

                    Hello,

                    I noticed that sometime the touch screen blocked. When the screen block the watch works and I can navigate in the menu. I found two ways to fix it - restart and start and discard the activity.

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                      EzioAuditore Gold Members @v.sacre
                      last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 07:35

                      @v-sacre I am on my second unit (the first one was crashing on every 2nd to 3d run) but the replacement I got is even worse. I got the replacement, couldn’t use it since I was away for a month then come home turn it on put it in my backpack and went biking to work to set it up during lunch break. I just got it out of the bag and touched it, it crashed and restarted. Brand new watch just turned on!!
                      Reset it turned it off and back to the drawer. Since I am terribly dissapointed with the SV I started testing another watch (and loved it). So after 2 weeks turned on the SV, synced and put the 2 wathces to check the GPS accuracy and pace between them. While similar in distance the maps on the SV were shoing me off by almost 100m?! Than on the 3rd km it crashed again!
                      I mean if it was one unit, ok sh*t happens it is tech so it might be expected. But the new unit also! And nothing to fix the crashes, no hotfix no nothing!

                      Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                      Suunto Wing

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                        Tieutieu Platinum Member @EzioAuditore
                        last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 07:38

                        @EzioAuditore said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                        @v-sacre I am on my second unit (the first one was crashing on every 2nd to 3d run) but the replacement I got is even worse. I got the replacement, couldn’t use it since I was away for a month then come home turn it on put it in my backpack and went biking to work to set it up during lunch break. I just got it out of the bag and touched it, it crashed and restarted. Brand new watch just turned on!!
                        Reset it turned it off and back to the drawer. Since I am terribly dissapointed with the SV I started testing another watch (and loved it). So after 2 weeks turned on the SV, synced and put the 2 wathces to check the GPS accuracy and pace between them. While similar in distance the maps on the SV were shoing me off by almost 100m?! Than on the 3rd km it crashed again!
                        I mean if it was one unit, ok sh*t happens it is tech so it might be expected. But the new unit also! And nothing to fix the crashes, no hotfix no nothing!

                        Sorry to hear that…It’s pretty unlucky…are you using guides or particular settings ??
                        Accuracy of the SV it outstanding, no reason to be off by 100m…

                        Suunto’s devices at home :
                        Vertical titanium solar
                        Suunto Race S
                        S9pp titanium sand
                        Suunto Wing
                        S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                          EzioAuditore Gold Members @Tieutieu
                          last edited by EzioAuditore 10 Sept 2023, 07:42 9 Oct 2023, 07:41

                          @Tieutieu I know my first unit was super accurate. Ok it may happen to drift a bit on weird GPS days but this time it was really something off. I waited 2-3 mins after gps lock aquired and started running first in the open and then entering the woods (here is were it started acting weirdly). Yes I use TrainingPeaks Guides and Stryd food pod since I train with power. But as I said the watch restarted even out of activity!

                          Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                          Suunto Wing

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                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @Tieutieu
                            last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 07:47

                            @Tieutieu What else is worth mentioning is that even off the overall distance with the other watch was only 10m. So after I saw the maps I returned to the default sport face (first screen) and after some running said to check again the maps. Upon pressing to advance to the 3rd screen (the maps, 2nd one being the laps) the wath froze and restared. Tried to start activity while running but couldn’t lock on gps. So being in a season of marathons and long runs the SV is too unreliable to go for a walk not to train with it!

                            Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                            Suunto Wing

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                              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Tieutieu
                              last edited by mikekoski490 10 Sept 2023, 08:05 9 Oct 2023, 07:52

                              @EzioAuditore Can you post app screenshots from the workouts you did with both the Suunto and also the ‘other brand’ you were wearing at the same time? It’s ok to name the other brand too. Curious. Thanks! I’ve had my Vertical since launch and only one crash a few months back, which put it on par with Garmin and Coros (both had crashes at some point).

                              When my Vertical crashed I had to restart the workout (trail run) mid-way so it showed up in SA as 2 workouts.

                              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                              Current: Suunto Race Ti

                              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                              Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                Tieutieu Platinum Member @mikekoski490
                                last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 07:54

                                @mikekoski490 said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                @Tieutieu Can you post a screenshot of the workout you did with both the Suunto and also the ‘other brand’ you were wearing at the same time? It’s ok to name the other brand too. Curious. Thanks! I’ve had my Vertical since launch and only one crash a few months back, which put it on par with Garmin and Coros (both had crashes at some point).

                                Not concerned by crashes neither accuracy pbs…don’t you wanted to tag @EzioAuditore ?

                                Suunto’s devices at home :
                                Vertical titanium solar
                                Suunto Race S
                                S9pp titanium sand
                                Suunto Wing
                                S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Tieutieu
                                  last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 07:57

                                  @Tieutieu Yes. Corrected the tag name. Thanks.

                                  Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                  Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                  Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                  Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                    EzioAuditore Gold Members @Tieutieu
                                    last edited by EzioAuditore 10 Sept 2023, 08:19 9 Oct 2023, 08:05

                                    @mikekoski490 Sure but what will it help if you see the GPS since the watch was operating in crash mode 🙂 There were 2 laps so 2 passes on the same place (each 10+ km). The initial ‘crashed’ activity was deleted. The other watch is a loaner by a friend of mine and is the FR965.IMG_2067.PNG IMG_2066.PNG

                                    Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                                    Suunto Wing

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                                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @EzioAuditore
                                      last edited by 9 Oct 2023, 08:12

                                      @EzioAuditore said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                      @Tieutieu Sure but what will it help if you see the GPS since the watch was operating in crash mode 🙂 The other watch is a loaner by a friend of mine and is the FR965.

                                      (Didn’t asked you to send, it was requested by @mikekoski490 😊 )
                                      My only though is that you’ve really ran out off luck with your SV experience…
                                      I certainly don’t want to minimize the problems you had…but statisticly you shouldn’t have such problems.
                                      As I’ve read on this forum, a few users had repeated problems with different units, with one or more replacements…
                                      My conclusion is that the HW is problably not faulty, but that there must be some kind of use cases that lead the OS to crash…
                                      As every software issues, finding the exact way to the bugs is sometimes very hard.

                                      Suunto’s devices at home :
                                      Vertical titanium solar
                                      Suunto Race S
                                      S9pp titanium sand
                                      Suunto Wing
                                      S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                        Tieutieu Platinum Member @EzioAuditore
                                        last edited by Tieutieu 10 Sept 2023, 08:15 9 Oct 2023, 08:14

                                        @EzioAuditore this GPS accuracy is totally not normal with SV ! (if settings were at best performance for gps, and even other modes, it’s not normal)…

                                        Suunto’s devices at home :
                                        Vertical titanium solar
                                        Suunto Race S
                                        S9pp titanium sand
                                        Suunto Wing
                                        S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                          EzioAuditore Gold Members @Tieutieu
                                          last edited by EzioAuditore 10 Sept 2023, 08:30 9 Oct 2023, 08:19

                                          @Tieutieu Yes sorry I too tagged the wrong person 🙂 But I know thats why I do not compare it based on the GPS since I’ve had extremely good past experience with the first SV unit. The second one I touched twice and 2 times it restarted so I am kinda in weird place now not knowing what to do. Being lauged at and loaning me ‘real’ devices as my friends call it is something I do not like. Since I was the ‘promotor’ of Suunto within my group of people, but I am running out of excuses why is this watch so bad. On the other hand I said never in my life Garmin (based on the experience with the 6x) the Forerunner has been qute good surprice. Almost too good to be true.

                                          Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                                          Suunto Wing

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