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    Tieutieu Platinum Member @SvenSchroeter
    last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 12:31

    @SvenSchroeter interesting !
    You probably should try with an hr belt to compare behavior.
    I can’t reproduce, my max hr is so low compare to you…(around 175).

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      SvenSchroeter @Tieutieu
      last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 12:37

      @Tieutieu You are right about that! And i am already looking at options on amazon as i saw your reply! I assume the wrist gives higher estimates than a belt.

      But since I am not interested as much in the absolute readings, rather relative. If i take the 210bpm and set it as my max heart rate everything should scale in the training zones accordingly. As long as you keep using the same device, and it is giving shall we say consistent errors (deviations from the absolute real reading) then I should be ok. Maybe my thinking is flawd…

      I was just sprprised to see such a perfect flat line. Which looks like a limit of the graphing, or the readings themselves.

      Just an interesting point. Was really surprised myself to see 210bmp… i am 37years old… I have seen peaks of 191 in one or 2 activity sessions, but nothing above 200bpm until i did this little test.

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        Mff73 @SvenSchroeter
        last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 14:22

        @SvenSchroeter
        this flat part can be, software limit, of also bug of the HR sensor, maybe the whole values are even not correct, etc…
        210 is quite not common.
        You can use (for free 🙂 ) a two fingers sensor on your throat or wrist, to check if 210 is something “logic” for you at that time.
        And, theorically, optical HR should be less than with a belt

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          A Former User @SvenSchroeter
          last edited by A Former User 3 Jun 2024, 14:38 6 Mar 2024, 14:35

          @SvenSchroeter said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

          Was really surprised myself to see 210bmp… i am 37years old…

          I remember years ago I had that value during a race because of an arrhythmia, the watch read 210 for 10 or more minutes, but the doctors told me I was at 220 or maybe more iirc (I was 56yo)–so I’m also thinking of a chest strap limitation as well (I was wearing a H10)

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            SvenSchroeter @Guest
            last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 14:42

            @robis i think it is because commonly it is used the 220 - age calculation for the recommended max hr. And tytpically they assume no one under the age of ten will be using such a watch/tool, hence they cap it at 210 maybe. Also based on the studdies performed on the general population. which even suunto themselves have written can be grossly inaccurate (especially for the older generation).

            https://www.suunto.com/en-us/sports/News-Articles-container-page/know-your-resting-and-max-heart-rates/

            Was an interesting read. Normally I have a much much lower heart rate during activity. Rarely going over 160bpm or 170bpm. But i tried to push this morning and when i looked back at the data after a shower… i was ready to head to the emergency room 😉

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              sartoric Moderator
              last edited by 7 Mar 2024, 12:46

              Just a glitch in alarm menu I’ve noticed today

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                TurtleCub
                last edited by 12 Mar 2024, 22:25

                For the vertical, is there a reason why autolaps are not recorded and downloaded if the lap button is used in a run? All suunto watches I used in the past recorded both.

                Can this be setup/changed?

                If no manual laps are used, the autolaps show up in the run

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                  DrSilverthorn @TurtleCub
                  last edited by 12 Mar 2024, 22:35

                  @TurtleCub if you use the manual interval S+ app, then the manual laps are recorded.

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                    DrSilverthorn
                    last edited by 13 Mar 2024, 17:50

                    I’m not sure if this has been reported already. But there are some remaining issues with the music player app. First problem - on android, if you have more than one music app loaded in memory, if you hit the forward button while the current music app is playing, the player will sometimes switch to the background app and start playing audio from it. The second problem can be seen in the photo below. If you use one of the audio controls on the watch (forward for example), then the current track time will fail to reset from that point forward, and will keep counting higher, even when another track is played (won’t reset there either). See photo below, I just hit forward to get to this track, and the total time is 8:58/8:00. Also note that the progress bar is now filled, even though the track has just started playing (probably tied to the failure to reset mentioned earlier.
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                    And finally - the other night, the watch went into DND mode, as per my settings. When it did that, the backlight came on and stayed on. I was unable to turn it off - since none of the settings showed it to be on. I had to reset the watch for it to go off.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @DrSilverthorn
                      last edited by 13 Mar 2024, 20:47

                      @DrSilverthorn Maybe an overall glitch fixed by reset. I am on iOS and have never seen these issues with the music player.

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                        SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 13 Mar 2024, 21:16

                        @Brad_Olwin And why should I use the music control on the watch? I can direct my music by head-shaking with my wing 😂😉😂😉

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                          Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @DrSilverthorn
                          last edited by 13 Mar 2024, 21:42

                          @DrSilverthorn @Brad_Olwin I am on Android 14 and can confirm similar experience.

                          If I was listening to a podcast (Podcast Republic) and switched over to music (Oto music), pause or take a call it may open either music or podcast or show “Nothing to Play”. No specific default.

                          Restarting either will then show the controls on the watch and resume function.

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                            sartoric Moderator @Todd Danielczyk
                            last edited by 13 Mar 2024, 22:11

                            @Todd-Danielczyk
                            I guess that is something related to Android.
                            I have similar issues with my openrun headphones, skipping tracks skip also the player 😁

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                              Marko1478
                              last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 06:41

                              I had blood oxygen measurement on but then decided to switch it off. Still every morning the watch shows the last recorded blood oxygen reading and altitude in the morning report. Minor bug but annoying.

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                                renton82 Platinum Member @Marko1478
                                last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 06:46

                                @Marko1478 And i bet always 100%?

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                                  lilaceo @Tieutieu
                                  last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 06:52

                                  @Tieutieu the same happens to me…

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                                    lilaceo @maszop
                                    last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 07:00

                                    @maszop I’ve arrived a that conclusion times ago, I suppose there are many people in this forum thats works for Suunto. The same happens in the telegrams channels . many times the answer is “maybe you are not a suunto watch customer”… my god… I’ve arrived the conclusion that they knows the watch slacks and try to justiticate with that kind of answers. I’ve also decided that the vertical is going to be my last suunto watch…, that’s all.

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                                      sartoric Moderator @lilaceo
                                      last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 08:09

                                      @lilaceo said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                      I suppose there are many people in this forum thats works for Suunto

                                      Some (few) yes
                                      Many,no

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                                        Marko1478 @renton82
                                        last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 09:58

                                        @renton82 when blood oxygen was on, it wasn’t always 100% but the last known reading was 100% and now it does always say that 😄
                                        I don’t care about blood oxygen, I’m just annoued that the morning report shows the last known reading from many weeks ago.

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                                          renton82 Platinum Member @Marko1478
                                          last edited by 14 Mar 2024, 10:25

                                          @Marko1478 Yes i mean last reading in Suunto app… it’s always at 100% what is the sense of this data? 😂

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