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    A Former User @Guest
    last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 06:41

    @Ilya-Sul

    Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).

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      zhang965 @Guest
      last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 07:06

      @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

      @Ilya-Sul

      Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).

      did you pay your watch with a cashback service?

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        Tieutieu Platinum Member @Guest
        last edited by Tieutieu 9 Jun 2023, 07:22 6 Sept 2023, 07:22

        @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

        @Ilya-Sul

        Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).

        I don’t understand : if your watch needs to be replaced the support should already have asked you to send the watch.
        I have dealed a couple a times the past years with them and they always were very reactives (A3P baro sensor replacement twice).
        Perhaps depend on the country…

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          A Former User @Tieutieu
          last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 07:46

          @Tieutieu I don’t know IF it has to be replaced, because support just told me they’d pass on the info. That’s it.

          I emailed support them asking if a ticket has been created / if I could exchange the watch, because it isn’t working correctly. No reply.

          The only thing I know is that I’m not going to take this watch on holiday, because it’s useless to me without a working map of the region.

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            laurent92m @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 08:40

            @Brad_Olwin

            Hello Brad,
            So, I 'm back from Chamonix and the map of this part of France was working fine from the first time (without the usual soft reset + calibrate compass).
            Before starting UTMB, I have selected the gpx trace, start the race with custom trail activity and then locked the watch.
            Maps of the 3 regions were available on the watch but with the 500 m display by default which is not always appropriate… Because I had locked the watch to prevent any stop of the watch, it was impossible to go to 250 m, 100 m > 50 m and backwoods, which is a pain!
            Program “locked watch” should not prevent user moving from 500 m to 50 m !

            Having no indication on the map, like names of mountain passes, lakes, villages is also a major drawback !

            Sadly, I have not been able to synchronize the result to my phone. 42h58 from Friday 6PM to Sunday 1PM.

            Any reasons? > 3 days, too long, 3 maps, custom trail program, other…
            And of course, other activities (bicycle ride to work) I did yesterday have been synchronized without any pb…

            Have a nice day
            BR
            Laurent

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              A Former User @Guest
              last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 17:57

              @Ilya-Sul

              Support emailed me today, asking me to reinstall Suunto App. They also want to know if the problem occurs with other maps that I downloaded. This is, of course, very easy to check on the watch… 😁 Guess I need to take a road trip now? Or scroll around aimlessly for a few hours?

              Jokes aside, looks like the chat support agent didn’t create a ticket / escalate the issue for me, since I already did everything they asked of me more than once. Joy.

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @laurent92m
                last edited by 7 Sept 2023, 23:13

                @laurent92m First, Congratulations on UTMB! If you cannot get the activity to sync try a tablet or different phone if available. If not you can try to delete and reinstall the app. What OS are you on iOS or Android. I synced a 34h 100 mile race but I definitely had issues syncing.

                Agree that having names on maps is important. I and others I am sure have voiced this and it is an obvious issue. I hope that we see progress on this as well.

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                  Tieutieu Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by Tieutieu 9 Aug 2023, 05:08 8 Sept 2023, 05:07

                  @Brad_Olwin said in No-Map-Problem:

                  Agree that having names on maps is important. I and others I am sure have voiced this and it is an obvious issue. I hope that we see progress on this as well.

                  I’m with you guys on that point. Maps on the vertical are great and reactiv, but some friends of mine have garmin’s and I must admit that maps details and the way zoom works are also brilliant.

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Tieutieu
                    last edited by 8 Sept 2023, 16:12

                    @Tieutieu I had an Epix2 for nine months purchasing one immediately after release. I found the maps were slow and often difficult to use on the fly. Even with less information selected the maps are quite crowded and slow to respond. I had issues with loaded routes that I could go into in detail if you wish. Newer hardware may work better but I was not happy with the maps.

                    Suunto’s maps are much easier to read and much, much more responsive. I would like to see names added but not at the cost of making the maps extremely slow. I imagine that something is being done her (my opinion only) and I am confident adding names, etc will be done so not to compromise the ability to use maps on the fly.

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                      Highlands @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by Highlands 9 Sept 2023, 05:47 9 Sept 2023, 05:20

                      @Brad_Olwin Been using 7XSS for well over than 20 months now. Maps are done very well and work pretty good for me. Indeed, maps help me so much, they are one of the main reasons, among other things, why I bother buying Fenix. Nothing cluttered at all. In the mountains they are extremely useful for what I do. I even buy on day one of my purchase licensed maps, although one can find tons of free maps on the Internet.
                      I keep following this no-map thread, as I’m eagerly waiting to see this sorted out asap.

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                        A Former User @Highlands
                        last edited by 9 Sept 2023, 05:43

                        @Highlands

                        I’m so glad I still have my Epix 2 for my holiday.


                        Suunto Support has been absolutely unhelpful so far. At this point, I’d recommend against buying the Suunto Vertical / Suunto products.

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                          zhang965 @Guest
                          last edited by 9 Sept 2023, 05:57

                          @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

                          @Highlands

                          I’m so glad I still have my Epix 2 for my holiday.


                          Suunto Support has been absolutely unhelpful so far. At this point, I’d recommend against buying the Suunto Vertical / Suunto products.

                          But did you find epix 2’s map is slow?

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                            A Former User @zhang965
                            last edited by A Former User 9 Sept 2023, 06:32 9 Sept 2023, 06:31

                            @zhang965

                            I bought some Talky Toaster maps for my Epix 2 (which I can wholeheartedly recommend). It’s slower, yes, but considering what an actually routable map brings to the table, it’s no contest really.

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                              A Former User @Guest
                              last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 09:09

                              @Ilya-Sul Still nothing from Suunto Support, even after another e-mail. After this whole debacle, I’ll say goodbye to Suunto, I think. 😔

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                                pavel.samokha @Guest
                                last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 14:04

                                @Ilya-Sul hard to read the whole 200+ messages here, could you describe your problem again?

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                                  A Former User @Guest
                                  last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 14:42

                                  @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

                                  @isazi
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                                  That’s all that shows up. Needless to say, that’s not what my hometown looks like.

                                  My federal state’s map’s been broken since I reset my watch. I tried everything. I can’t fix it, no matter what I reset, re-download or restart. I did everything more than once. There’s no fix on my end.

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                                    pavel.samokha @Guest
                                    last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 17:04

                                    @Ilya-Sul could you share state name and location? Here or DM me

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                                      A Former User @pavel.samokha
                                      last edited by 18 Sept 2023, 18:02

                                      @pavel-samokha

                                      Pavel’s helped me to resolve the issue. ❤️

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                                        pavel.samokha @Guest
                                        last edited by 18 Sept 2023, 18:10

                                        @Ilya-Sul Great. Unfortunately it’s not complete solution, there still could be border issues, I’ll share here when we fix the issue fully.

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @Guest
                                          last edited by 19 Sept 2023, 06:56

                                          @Ilya-Sul

                                          @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

                                          @pavel-samokha

                                          Pavel’s helped me to resolve the issue. ❤️

                                          that is great.
                                          I have asked you like 3 weeks ago about in which state this is happening. Could have solved this earlier 😉
                                          But great you got it working.

                                          Same issue I kept having at the boarder from Hamburg to adjacent stated of Niedersachsen and Schleswig-Holstein

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