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    pavel.samokha @Guest
    last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 17:04

    @Ilya-Sul could you share state name and location? Here or DM me

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      A Former User @pavel.samokha
      last edited by 18 Sept 2023, 18:02

      @pavel-samokha

      Pavel’s helped me to resolve the issue. ❤️

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        pavel.samokha @Guest
        last edited by 18 Sept 2023, 18:10

        @Ilya-Sul Great. Unfortunately it’s not complete solution, there still could be border issues, I’ll share here when we fix the issue fully.

        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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          Egika Platinum Member @Guest
          last edited by 19 Sept 2023, 06:56

          @Ilya-Sul

          @Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:

          @pavel-samokha

          Pavel’s helped me to resolve the issue. ❤️

          that is great.
          I have asked you like 3 weeks ago about in which state this is happening. Could have solved this earlier 😉
          But great you got it working.

          Same issue I kept having at the boarder from Hamburg to adjacent stated of Niedersachsen and Schleswig-Holstein

          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
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            A Former User @Egika
            last edited by A Former User 19 Sept 2023, 07:38

            @Egika

            Yes, but as I said: On a public forum, I don’t want to disclose my location any more than I have to. 😁

            The thing is that it would’ve been Suunto Support’s job to solve this with me, but they didn’t, like at all. So while I’m very grateful to the Suunto dev(s) on the forum, I’m bummed that going through the official channels turned out to be a such waste of time.

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              Egika Platinum Member @Guest
              last edited by 19 Sept 2023, 07:42

              @Ilya-Sul
              you are right, support should be able to solve it for you.
              still this is what the forum is there for: helping users out.
              no need to disclose your location in public, private message does it as well.

              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
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                Honza Bronze Member
                last edited by 16 Oct 2023, 11:01

                Hey everyone. It’s hard to go through everything, and each issue is a bit different. Would anyone be able to let me know the recommended steps if I keep having the no-map issues? It seems to happen randomly where some map squares don’t show at 200m and closer. The map shows at 500m resolution but with less detail than normal for this resolution. I tried the soft reboot multiple times, and it seems to resolve the issue, but it always comes back after a while.

                Is this a known issue, and should I just wait for the next fw update? Or should I redownload my maps? Anything else I can do?

                The issue does not seem to be related to a specific map or location. I’m in Czechia most of the time, but I had the issue even when traveling to Austria.

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                  surfboomerang @Honza
                  last edited by 16 Oct 2023, 11:21

                  @Honza As far as I know a reboot works as a workaround. A solution should be provided with a firmware update.

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                    inkognito Platinum Member
                    last edited by inkognito 16 Nov 2023, 17:11

                    So I have this issue with the new firmware.

                    20231116_173645.jpg

                    When this happened, whole interface started lagging. But my exercise continued.

                    In the end, after “feeling” screen, I got stuck on “Saving…”
                    20231116_175159.jpg

                    But I was not really stuck… When I swiped “back”, it took me back to feeling… I went back and forth several times and then tried to press the middle button several times. Then my watch rebooted…

                    I have sent logs and will be happy to provide details!

                    Interestingly, after the firmware update, I noticed that there’s something weird in that location when I tried the 2km zoom and paned map to that location. I saw tiles and my watch became very slow. When I returned to watch screen, it showed this:
                    20231116_145220.jpg
                    (info on the top is clearly missing)

                    When I checked the Suunto app, watch appeared to be busy… I restarted my watch and things went back to normal, until I checked that place on map again and the whole thing repeated. So, no, reboot does not work for me…

                    I will try to redownload the map and check again…

                    EDIT: I deleted the map and downloaded again. When I use 2km zoom, I have no-map problem in multiple locations. When this happens, after I exit the map, watch becomes slow and restarts occasionally… Before it restarts, when I check SA, I can see “Watch is busy” state (I hope that it at least tries to send some error report to Suunto).

                    Since there is still no backup for custom sport modes or settings, I do not really want to try the hard reset immediately… Could someone try to pan on the map with 2km zoom and report that it works alright on other device (even when you pan very far etc)?

                    SV: fingers crossed :D
                    S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                    Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                    Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                      pavel.samokha @inkognito
                      last edited by 16 Nov 2023, 20:18

                      @inkognito could you send me your location in PM?

                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                        pilleus @inkognito
                        last edited by pilleus 16 Nov 2023, 20:47

                        @inkognito

                        In 2 km zoom I can pan to the border of the downloaded map. There the map changes to black squares (shown in your first picture). I don’t know if this will help …

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                          inkognito Platinum Member @pilleus
                          last edited by inkognito 16 Nov 2023, 20:49

                          @pilleus Great, I will probably have to try the hard reset soon 😞

                          EDIT: I tried the hard reset and it did not help…

                          SV: fingers crossed :D
                          S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                          Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                          Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                            Juhani @inkognito
                            last edited by 17 Nov 2023, 09:19

                            @inkognito I’m having similar issues with the new version. I can’t see maps at all on 500m, 1km, 2km. (just the grid) And if I even try 1km and 2km then the bigger zooms (25m-200m) break too and show only part of the map just like in the photo you sent. Afterwards suunto app is not able to connect and soft reset is needed. I have also done factory reset, deleted and re-uploaded maps and nothing helps.

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                              vpet_09
                              last edited by 17 Nov 2023, 09:42

                              With the latest firmware I am also seeing mostly just black squares in Vertical, with the old firmware everything worked ok and now almost none of the map tiles are rendered. I did try to reset and redownload maps but nothing seems to help.

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                                Majkel Paszeko @inkognito
                                last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 01:51

                                @inkognito "black grid of death” is still with us. I’m just back from 2h trail run and issue started when i zoomed out map too much. Some map areas (even those visible at start) disapeared. So I ran my way back trough the black fields of death 🙃. And as community said: when it happens it can affect other things as well. In my case it was HR sensor reads which frozen at 180 bmp value till the end of workout. Also afer the workout, many widgets were showing nothing or nonsense untill i soft reset. So it is definitely cache mamory issue driven by some maps operations.

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                                  vpet_09
                                  last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 10:14

                                  Today I went to a longer run and didn’t open map view until halfway the route and to my surprise maps worked on all zoom levels. When I came back to the point where I have seen black grid, it did appear again when zooming in and out.

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                                    Majkel Paszeko @vpet_09
                                    last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 10:23

                                    @vpet_09 From my observation, when given maps segment disappeared once then nothing can bring them back, during activity or anytime after. Only after soft reset they’re back. Is it he same in your case?

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                                      vpet_09 @Majkel Paszeko
                                      last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 10:48

                                      @Majkel-Paszeko yes exactly, once you see black grid nothing will fix the problem after that and also I think battery starts to drain a lot faster so maybe there is somekind of infinite loop or something like that which takes all the resources from the watch.

                                      M 1 Reply Last reply 19 Nov 2023, 12:04 Reply Quote 1
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                                        Majkel Paszeko @vpet_09
                                        last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 12:04

                                        @vpet_09 did you have any POI added to watch in this workout area?

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                                          vpet_09 @Majkel Paszeko
                                          last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 13:10

                                          @Majkel-Paszeko there was no POIs in the area

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