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    Mff73 @Antoine
    last edited by 29 Aug 2024, 12:52

    @Antoine
    among those 400 posts there are some hints, and the latest info is “in a couple of weeks”.
    just wait and enjoy activities, and charge our watches just a couple of times more

    Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
    Suunto Vertical all black
    Wife : S9PP
    SA: Always the latest beta :)
    Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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      Mff73 @Antoine
      last edited by 29 Aug 2024, 12:57

      @Antoine
      and 65h is autonomy in activity, which seems not to be impacted (as far as i understand or experienced).
      You may also try this so unofficial workaround after each activity (it doesn’t consume that much personnal time and may let us wait (if it works for everyone)).
      https://forum.suunto.com/post/151611

      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
      Suunto Vertical all black
      Wife : S9PP
      SA: Always the latest beta :)
      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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        Antoine Bronze Member @isazi
        last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:08

        @isazi said in Battery drain:

        My personal workaround while we wait for a fix is: if you use navigation just reboot your watch at the end, after syncing the activity with your phone.

        This is my personal view, nothing from Suunto

        I managed to send logs to Suunto and hope a fix for this will be included in the next firmware. I also believe it is not the GPS but the storage that is kept active, GPS would give an even larger battery consumption. No confirmation from Suunto yet. I try to keep the forum informed as much as I can 🙂

        Same to turn-off Suunto Vertical using general parametrers and to turn-on again i guess ?

        Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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          Mff73 @Antoine
          last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:09

          @Antoine
          yes

          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
          Suunto Vertical all black
          Wife : S9PP
          SA: Always the latest beta :)
          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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            diogao13 Bronze Member @diogao13
            last edited by 30 Aug 2024, 14:18

            @diogao13 said in Battery drain:

            At the control panel we find the battery percentage. It would be great an update to include more info, like a widget or simple click on battery percentage icon to present:

            • current %
            • last time it was recharged
            • % when last recharged was initiated
            • % when last recharged was ended
            • a prediction when next recharge will be required, based on drain for a selectable period (3 days, week, month).
            • draining graph using recharging date x %.

            This would help us to detect draining activities or functions.

            Scubapro G3 includes some features to help users watching battery
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              Kramble @isazi
              last edited by Kramble 30 Aug 2024, 23:21

              @isazi said in Battery drain:

              @Kramble said in Battery drain:

              To me it seems there are two drain bugs.
              One with big drain maybe the one you are testing.
              And another smaller one in mere watch use without activities.

              You are also correct, and Suunto is aware of that.

              @isazi Maybe a lead for the small drain :

              Two days ago I got the old synchronization bug on my android beta Suunto app (your watch is no longer found and when you try to pair again then the app fails).
              To solve it I know I have to wipe out the data and cache of the app ( did it from android setting menu), then I have to login again and pair my vertical again.
              It works with a little surprise, no more small drain bug : in 48h with one 50 min trail activity the vertical just lost 4% ! (from 85% to 81%).
              I did nothing else since my last drain (no reset and no full battery cycle, no solar charge).
              So maybe the Bluetooth could be responsible of the small drain ?

              Hope it can help.

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              Spartan Ultra (sold)
              S7 graphite copper
              S9 peak all black
              Vertical titanium green forest
              Wings

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                Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @Kramble
                last edited by Todd Danielczyk 31 Aug 2024, 12:34

                @Kramble I had something similar this morning.

                Touch screen unresponsive, would not sync to the Suunto app, battery dropped about 26% overnight and wouldn’t pair even after restarting the Vertical.
                1000122084.jpg

                Had to clear the cache and reset the app. Now I have 11 exercise days synced for 2024, nothing pervious dating back to 2019🤔🤣

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                  Antoine Bronze Member @isazi
                  last edited by Antoine 9 Jan 2024, 15:51 1 Sept 2024, 15:48

                  @isazi said in Battery drain:

                  My personal workaround while we wait for a fix is: if you use navigation just reboot your watch at the end, after syncing the activity with your phone.

                  This is my personal view, nothing from Suunto

                  I managed to send logs to Suunto and hope a fix for this will be included in the next firmware. I also believe it is not the GPS but the storage that is kept active, GPS would give an even larger battery consumption. No confirmation from Suunto yet. I try to keep the forum informed as much as I can 🙂

                  I used navigation yesterday and today battery drop from 46% to 41% in 9 hours. Only time is displayed today.
                  I will try your workaround.
                  I have juste sent logs to Suunto.

                  Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                    Antoine Bronze Member @Mff73
                    last edited by 1 Sept 2024, 17:20

                    @Mff73 not sure that autonomy in activity is not impacted. By analyzing the FIT file during an activity of more than 6 hours i found an estimated autonomy of 40h which was more than 60h before update.
                    To be confirmed…

                    Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                      Fenr1r
                      last edited by Fenr1r 9 Jan 2024, 19:22 1 Sept 2024, 19:21

                      Department of Possible Drain Candidates:

                      FWIW, 7 hours after a recorded, route-following activity, the Compass widget is still reporting a value. I seem to remember it quitting much earlier post-navigation on the previous firmware.

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                        Kramble @Kramble
                        last edited by 1 Sept 2024, 20:16

                        @Kramble said in Battery drain:

                        @isazi said in Battery drain:

                        @Kramble said in Battery drain:

                        To me it seems there are two drain bugs.
                        One with big drain maybe the one you are testing.
                        And another smaller one in mere watch use without activities.

                        You are also correct, and Suunto is aware of that.

                        @isazi Maybe a lead for the small drain :

                        Two days ago I got the old synchronization bug on my android beta Suunto app (your watch is no longer found and when you try to pair again then the app fails).
                        To solve it I know I have to wipe out the data and cache of the app ( did it from android setting menu), then I have to login again and pair my vertical again.
                        It works with a little surprise, no more small drain bug : in 48h with one 50 min trail activity the vertical just lost 4% ! (from 85% to 81%).
                        I did nothing else since my last drain (no reset and no full battery cycle, no solar charge).
                        So maybe the Bluetooth could be responsible of the small drain ?

                        Hope it can help.

                        My bad , my bad I am sorry, I was on holiday and I didn’t notice that the donnot disturb mode was on…
                        Small drain battery is still there 😞

                        Ambit 3 peak saphir
                        Spartan Ultra (sold)
                        S7 graphite copper
                        S9 peak all black
                        Vertical titanium green forest
                        Wings

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                          isazi Moderator
                          last edited by 2 Sept 2024, 13:25

                          My personal update, nothing official, is that two possible causes have been identified. I have not tested a fix yet, but Suunto is aware that this needs to be fixed with next release.

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                            Antoine Bronze Member @isazi
                            last edited by Antoine 9 Mar 2024, 06:06 3 Sept 2024, 05:19

                            @isazi said in Battery drain:

                            My personal workaround while we wait for a fix is: if you use navigation just reboot your watch at the end, after syncing the activity with your phone.

                            This is my personal view, nothing from Suunto

                            I managed to send logs to Suunto and hope a fix for this will be included in the next firmware. I also believe it is not the GPS but the storage that is kept active, GPS would give an even larger battery consumption. No confirmation from Suunto yet. I try to keep the forum informed as much as I can 🙂

                            I have checked your workaround, seems same for me:

                            • indeed after an activity with maps and navigation the battery usage is ~9% for 16h
                            • reboot (turn off in parameter and long press on upper button)
                            • battery usage is ~2% for 16h
                            • activity without navigation
                            • battery usage is still ~2% for 16h

                            I hope it will be solved very soon as one main advantage of Suunto Vertical watch is autonomy…

                            Watch: Suunto vertical solar

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                              jjpaz Bronze Member
                              last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 05:51

                              After 17 days without battery drain problem (full charged august 14th, 13% battery level 31th august and full charged again) this past night SV battery level has lowered by 10%-12% without use.
                              Yesterday evening I exchanged watches and I have slept with SR S again… (I was wearing SV full time since august 14th). My last activity with SV was on sunday morning and I didn’t use navigation (hiking with ‘Weather’ S+ App), so it seems battery drain has several faces…

                              Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                                isazi Moderator
                                last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 08:08

                                A fix is being tested, if everything works out should be here in a week or two.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  martintrail Silver Members @isazi
                                  last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 08:12

                                  @isazi omg, the wait is endless 😄

                                  Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    gerasimos Bronze Member @isazi
                                    last edited by gerasimos 9 Mar 2024, 08:16 3 Sept 2024, 08:16

                                    @isazi so, it was massive the problem and not for some cases after last update!
                                    by the way great news!!

                                    Suunto Vertical Ti
                                    Suunto S9 gen1
                                    Suunto Ambit3 peak

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                                      isazi Moderator @gerasimos
                                      last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 08:19

                                      @gerasimos not massive, but there were various causes for the drain, all dependent on user behavior. Meaning, users using certain features would see the drain, others not using them not.

                                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                      Blog: isazi's home

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                                        gerasimos Bronze Member @isazi
                                        last edited by gerasimos 9 Mar 2024, 08:26 3 Sept 2024, 08:26

                                        @isazi now i understand exactly what triggers the problem or one of the main reasons ! 👍

                                        Suunto Vertical Ti
                                        Suunto S9 gen1
                                        Suunto Ambit3 peak

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                                          Mff73 @isazi
                                          last edited by 3 Sept 2024, 08:31

                                          @isazi said in Battery drain:

                                          A fix is being tested, if everything works out should be here in a week or two.

                                          i am bookmarking this message, i am pretty sure the question will raise again soon 🥳

                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                          Suunto Vertical all black
                                          Wife : S9PP
                                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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