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Sensors full of Bubbles, Plastic peels off.

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    A Former User @sartoric
    last edited by 26 Oct 2023, 07:23

    @sartoric said in Sensors full of Bubbles, Plastic peels off.:

    since it’s not used but refurbished

    Good to know, after all buying refurbished unit has its reasons 😊

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      pierre545 @Guest
      last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 11:58

      Hi

      I have the same issue on my Suunto Vertical.
      I had contact the customer service last week.
      They said that is a coating issue and I need to ship my watch in order to replace my watch case.

      My SV is at suunto warehouse since today.
      I will see in 20 working days.

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        fv4500 Bronze Member
        last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:08

        Hei there! My honeymoon with Suunto is probably over: my fantastic 9PP, bought September this year, is developing the same bubbles + coating peeling off. I won’t bother uploading a picture, it’s exactly the same as posted by others. Thanks for raising the issue by the way 👍 .
        So, I’m not in the mood for letting go my watch for a month… What would happen if we just let the issue develop completely? I’m trying to leverage on one hand the (minimum) one month without the watch and on the other just live with the issue. Any thoughts? What sensors do we have there? How would readings be affected?
        Just 2 more cents: like many others, my watch has not been in contact with anything except my skin and my sweat, has been taken care of after each activity with clean, clear water and, well, I can’t imagine any reasonable reason why this would be happening 😢 .
        Cheers!

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          Elipsus Silver Members @fv4500
          last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:11

          @fv4500 Yo, you should try to send it back, the bubbles will affect the HR reading once they start to be on the sensing area (the squares above and below the LEDS), also for me they irritated my skin because its scratchy

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            GiPFELKiND Silver Members @pierre545
            last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:22

            @pierre545 how long you use your vertical since this bubbles make it Scratch?! How long time? 😢

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              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @fv4500
              last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:23

              @fv4500 how long you use your watch until this bubbles are coming? 😢

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                fv4500 Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
                last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:35

                @GiPFELKiND I wear the watch basically 24/7 (except for charging 20min once a week). Aprox 5 activities per week (including running, hiking, treadmill…), 45min each since I got my 9PP this September. The rest of the watch looks “just unboxed”. Maybe my sweat is like Alien’s xenomorph’s blood… 👽

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                  fv4500 Bronze Member @Elipsus
                  last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:39

                  @Elipsus yeah… I know I should, but it’s hard for me to swallow that I’ll loose the watch for so long… I use the HR strap anyways so I just wanted to leverage the impact of just accepting this. Will see…

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                    fv4500 Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
                    last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 08:53

                    @GiPFELKiND that’s in fact a much better question than I thought: what’s really the point of sending the watch, waiting for a month, hopefully getting it back repaired, only to find out that bubbles are coming up again after just a few weeks… We need to see if there is an actual change in the coating process during manufacturing that makes it more durable.

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                      Elipsus Silver Members @fv4500
                      last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 09:11

                      @fv4500 I can’t agree more, I had to sent back my watch for 3 weeks in August and it really caused me troubles on my trainings, and I will have to send it back soon.
                      Do you plan on doing a winter break maybe ? for me i’m going to send it back in January since i know i’m not going to run/train as hard

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                        fv4500 Bronze Member @Elipsus
                        last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 09:33

                        @Elipsus Haven’t decided yet… first I would like to understand the impact on readings’ quality if I just keep the watch as it is, and then I would like to have a certain reassurance that there have been improvements in the manufacturing process such that sending the watch makes it worth it and no bubbles come up again. Maybe I’m hoping too high.

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                          Tieutieu Platinum Member @fv4500
                          last edited by Tieutieu 13 Nov 2023, 09:38

                          @fv4500 said in Sensors full of Bubbles, Plastic peels off.:

                          @Elipsus Haven’t decided yet… first I would like to understand the impact on readings’ quality if I just keep the watch as it is, and then I would like to have a certain reassurance that there have been improvements in the manufacturing process such that sending the watch makes it worth it and no bubbles come up again. Maybe I’m hoping too high.

                          As it is a known and obvious hardware default, I would not hesitate to sent it for replacement, while your watch is still covered by warranty ; but I understand you don’t want to leave your watch.
                          Don’t know how long it really takes, but few years ago the barometric sensor replacement of my A3p was quit fast.
                          If you don’t have a spare watch (I still keep my S9b), you may perhaps exceptionnaly consider using SA to directly record your training ?

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                            fv4500 Bronze Member @Tieutieu
                            last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 09:49

                            @Tieutieu thanks for the suggestion! Yep, that’s something I consider: tracking the most relevant training sessions using the Suunto App + HR strap. Anyway I know I should be sending it for repair…🙄

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                              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @fv4500
                              last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 10:05

                              @fv4500 since May this bubbles Problem is known and suunto had not given any official Statement because of this!? Really???

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                                Tieutieu Platinum Member @GiPFELKiND
                                last edited by Tieutieu 13 Nov 2023, 10:09

                                @GiPFELKiND said in Sensors full of Bubbles, Plastic peels off.:

                                @fv4500 since May this bubbles Problem is known and suunto had not given any official Statement because of this!? Really???

                                @GiPFELKiND : it is not like a “security” problem…When talking about cars, health devices, climbing ropes or carabiners…off course an official statement and return campaign is needed…
                                It always concerns “specfic” models or series.

                                We are talking about something that is erratic, and problably concerns few models of few series (and certainly not all series). Unless I’m sure Suunto would have asked for complet series return for replacement.

                                Except some OHR issues, I don’t remember that anybody talked about unusable watches or ones that exploded ! 😁

                                So the “if you are concerned, contact SAV for replacement” seems quite enough, isn’t it ??

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                                  sartoric Moderator @GiPFELKiND
                                  last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 13:33

                                  @GiPFELKiND
                                  what do you expect ?
                                  I mean, it’s clearly a defective batch and you got it fixed if you contact support.
                                  What should Suunto do more than that ?

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                                    last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 13:52

                                    @sartoric said in Sensors full of Bubbles, Plastic peels off.:

                                    I mean, it’s clearly a defective batch and you got it fixed if you contact support.

                                    You made an important point here: do we get it actually fixed? Because, if you send it once and then it’s solved forever and ever, that’s worth the month of waiting, otherwise… Would be great to understand if we’re talking about a defective batch from a reliable coating process or, otherwise, it’s the process not actually reliable? Soooorry, I’m going too technical 🤐 🖖 😁 .

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                                      ChrisA Platinum Member @fv4500
                                      last edited by 13 Nov 2023, 18:49

                                      @fv4500 I may be completely wrong, but since there seem to be some people who (repeatedly?) had this peeling problem, while others had none -> may this have something to do with those useres skin/sweat in combination with a sensitive material used in Suunto’s coating? There seem to be people who have more corrosive sweat than others…

                                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/974027/

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                                        fv4500 Bronze Member @ChrisA
                                        last edited by 14 Nov 2023, 08:45

                                        @ChrisA yep, probably there’s part of this in the issue, but there has to be something clearly wrong in that only after 3 months of very light use of the watch the coating starts to peel off.
                                        By the way: anybody knows if Suunto replaces just the back cover of the watch or the whole thing? Is water tightness (IP rating) guaranteed in full as a brand new watch would?
                                        Thanks!

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                                          Tieutieu Platinum Member @fv4500
                                          last edited by Tieutieu 14 Nov 2023, 09:05

                                          @fv4500 it will depend on what they do the moment they’ll receive your watch, but be sure that even they only replace some parts, your watch will have the same characteristics than a new one !

                                          My few experiences with support (2 baro sensor replacement on A3P) have always been great.

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