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    Tieutieu Platinum Member @taziden
    last edited by Tieutieu 11 Jun 2023, 11:03 6 Nov 2023, 11:02

    @taziden said in Reviews:

    @Tieutieu said in Reviews:

    New review out (in French) .

    test de Jérôme, montre cardio gps

    He says that during an activity, switching screens is not possible using the touch display as is the case for the S9P or S9PP for instance. Is that right?
    Only through pushing the crown.

    As far as I now there is no custom battery mode in the Race for now, so probably the touch screen can’t be activated. But I remember reading on the forum that It should come.
    Maybe race users or testers can confirm ?

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      Tieutieu Platinum Member @taziden
      last edited by Tieutieu 11 Jun 2023, 11:03 6 Nov 2023, 11:02

      Oups duplicated post

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        Egika Platinum Member @Tieutieu
        last edited by 6 Nov 2023, 13:20

        @Tieutieu can confirm that a user defined touch (through custom battery mode) during exercise is not available in Race. Cannot confirm that it will come.
        Would like to see this as well (or probably rotating the crown to move through the screens forward and backwards…

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          taziden Gold Members @Egika
          last edited by 6 Nov 2023, 13:22

          @Egika said in Reviews:

          @Tieutieu can confirm that a user defined touch (through custom battery mode) during exercise is not available in Race. Cannot confirm that it will come.
          Would like to see this as well (or probably rotating the crown to move through the screens forward and backwards…

          Yes, if touch screen is disabled, being able to rotate through the screens using the crown seems like a must have (for me at least).
          I quite got used to enable and use the touchscreen in all my sport modes.

          S9PP

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            Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member
            last edited by 6 Nov 2023, 19:06

            One more: https://youtu.be/jATciL6rPvk?si=qD6Ci8d6uDOtJjD-

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              sir_max Bronze Member
              last edited by 7 Nov 2023, 20:33

              Just read DC rainmaker’s review of the polar and in the comments he mentioned his race review will be out tomorrow or day after 🙏

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                surfratt @sir_max
                last edited by 7 Nov 2023, 23:34

                @sir_max
                Yep, I asked when he was doing his Race review. He responded tomorrow afternoon his time, or Thursday. Fingers crossed it’s tomorrow. Sounds like, from reading the V3 review, that the race gps is better than the V3, but the optical HR is bad during workouts. Worse than Garmin, Polar…

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                  SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @surfratt
                  last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 06:03

                  @surfratt said in Reviews:

                  Sounds like, from reading the V3 review, that the race gps is better than the V3, but the optical HR is bad during workouts. Worse than Garmin, Polar…
                  Why should the test be different from the further tests? The gps was tested very good also for SV. The OHR was tested not so good also for SV. As far as I can read it‘s the the same sensor and gps modul for SV and SR? I don‘t think OHR can get much better with a software update 🤣 and as far as I know, the tester stays the same, I think 🤔

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                    lessthanmore Bronze Member @SuperFlo75
                    last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 15:38

                    @SuperFlo75 For GPS the antenna design is very important and different between SR and SV. The GPS accuracy of the SV is slightly better than the one from the SR.
                    The OHR is the same. However, as the hardware design is different (and the weight) the sensor will work also differently.

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                      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @lessthanmore
                      last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 16:27

                      @lessthanmore said in Reviews:

                      @SuperFlo75 GPS antenna design…is different between SR and SV. The GPS accuracy of the SV is slightly better than the one from the SR.

                      Curious where this is documented? Thanks!

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                      Current: Suunto Race Ti

                      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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                        lessthanmore Bronze Member @mikekoski490
                        last edited by lessthanmore 11 Aug 2023, 16:52 8 Nov 2023, 16:41

                        @mikekoski490 Here’s the scientific stuff with formulas and magic: https://hexagondownloads.blob.core.windows.net/public/Novatel/assets/Documents/Papers/effectofantenna/effectofantenna.pdf

                        https://gge.ext.unb.ca/Resources/gpsworld.february09.pdf

                        You could also read Ray’s review of the new Polar watch:

                        “Now, what’s more notable here is Polar’s changing of their antenna design. Most of these companies are actually using the same GPS chipset in their watches, yet their performance is significantly different. Take Garmin vs COROS for example. Both have used the exact same chipset in their multi-band watches, yet Garmin’s GPS performance in those dual-frequency watches is universally agreed upon by reviewers as superior. Similarly, when Polar launched their Ignite 3 a year ago with multi-band/dual-frequency), it didn’t do well at all GPS-wise.
                        Why? Antenna design.
                        It’s incredibly critical to good GPS reception, particularly in challenging environments. In a recent conversation with another watchmaker, Suunto, they talked about how fractions of a millimeter made the difference between incredible performance and unacceptable performance. Of course, companies can’t just copy/paste this from Garmin (and even Garmin can’t copy/paste to themselves), because each watch case/bezel/materials design is different – and all of that impacts accuracy.”

                        Discussion from the “other side”: https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-5-series/128225/antenna-design---fenix-5-5s-vs-5x-vs-chronos-vs-fenix-3#pifragment-1292=1

                        /edit: Oh, I just saw you only quoted the part with SR vs SV. I don’t know if there’s documentation of it. But it was mentioned here in the forum that the firmware is different: https://forum.suunto.com/post/130076

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                          wmichi
                          last edited by 8 Nov 2023, 17:59

                          Not a review, just first initial thoughts.

                          https://youtu.be/bVQSeA_Hp04?si=sf8YyGgOEcV18T_q

                          Very positive.

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                            Egika Platinum Member @lessthanmore
                            last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 08:01

                            @lessthanmore said in Reviews:

                            You could also read Ray’s review of the new Polar watch:

                            *"Now, what’s more notable here is Polar’s changing of their antenna design. Most of these companies are actually using the same GPS chipset in their watches, yet their performance is significantly different.

                            There is another “why” to this:
                            While different companies are possibly using the same GPS chipset, at least Suunto is getting a dedicated FW for the GPS chips they are sourcing from the manufacturer.

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                              tuxella Bronze Member
                              last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 08:28

                              Not a review either, but an interesting interview (in French) with someone working at Suunto from a knowledgable reviewer: https://www.nakan.ch/wp/2023/11/08/podcast-s01-e07-concevoir-une-montre-gps-de-sport-avec-kevin-croq-de-suunto/

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                                Tieutieu Platinum Member @tuxella
                                last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 08:39

                                @tuxella said in Reviews:

                                Not a review either, but an interesting interview (in French) with someone working at Suunto from a knowledgable reviewer: https://www.nakan.ch/wp/2023/11/08/podcast-s01-e07-concevoir-une-montre-gps-de-sport-avec-kevin-croq-de-suunto/

                                Yes I’ve created a thread about it. Very intersting to listen !

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                                  gizmo
                                  last edited by gizmo 11 Sept 2023, 12:35 9 Nov 2023, 12:14

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u22oVs0VTNY
                                  It’s not that bad on my watch, but unfortunately it’s bad overall…

                                  I have been using Garmin, Polar, Coros and Suunto watches for 20 years for running and cycling. I currently have Suunto Race.

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                                    Andrea Paissan
                                    last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 12:23

                                    A question arises spontaneously… Why does a company like Suunto (that I love) market a product with such a painful HR sensor? Mystery

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                                      wmichi @Andrea Paissan
                                      last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 12:59

                                      @Andrea-Paissan I don’t know. But I think it’s bad because they are using their own algorithms and there is simply a lot more work needed to make it usable for most users. Wasn’t the 9PP the first watch where Suunto started to use their own algorithms for the OHR sensor?

                                      Either way, I would never rely on the findings of other users about the OHR of a watch. Especially for intervals. There are too many parameters of the watch user (skin tone, hair,…) at play. Even if it’s bad for Fit Gear Hunter, it might work well for others.

                                      As long as it’s accurate out of workouts and especially during the night, I am good with it. For everything else: H10 or Verity Sense.

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                                        duffman19
                                        last edited by 9 Nov 2023, 14:22

                                        Here it is - https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/11/suunto-race-amoled-in-depth-review.html

                                        Vertical Ti / S9P Ti

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                                          Tieutieu Platinum Member @duffman19
                                          last edited by Tieutieu 11 Sept 2023, 14:42 9 Nov 2023, 14:34

                                          @duffman19 said in Reviews:

                                          Here it is - https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/11/suunto-race-amoled-in-depth-review.html

                                          I don’t really get why he says that the SR is “much better” than the SV, pointing news features that will arrive (most of them) also on SV.
                                          Except the amoled and rotative crown, there is not much differences.

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