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The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical

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    isazi Moderator @Ketoohs
    last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 13:31

    @Ketoohs Ray showed that there are some differences in features between Race and Vertical, at least right now, but as far I can see the Vertical is still being developed.

    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

    Blog: isazi's home

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      BrunoH Gold Members @TrailEyes
      last edited by BrunoH 13 Oct 2023, 13:43

      I am not only keeping my Vertical, but even after today’s news and hype I would still choose Vertical over Race if I was buying a watch today.

      The exclusive features just don’t appeal to me, but I am THRILLED about the amount of our wishes getting delivered to both Vertical and Race!!! It pays off to be a member of this forum.

      Anyway, it is great to have alternatives for different kinds of consumers! Go Suunto!

      (And now we can start counting seconds to the first complaints why feature wish XYZ didn’t make it to production.)

      Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
      Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
      Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Ketoohs
        last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 15:18

        @Ketoohs I just watched DC Rainmakers video, and he did say that the Vertical should get all of the features of the Race. From experience with Garmin, this is fairly standard as long as the hardware has the capability. Ive always just thought that to boost sales of the newest and greatest device initially companies dont do the sofware update for previous models right away, then once the hype dies down port the updates to the previous capable models. That way, they can get a bunch of, in this case, Vertical owners having FOMO and buy the new Race. 🙂 Just my opinion though. Im in the same boat with a Vertical and cant afford another watch 6 months after buying it,. I think Ill hold on to the likely last Suunto device made in Finland. Hoping for new updates come soon which will refresh the Vertical enough to get over the FOMO.

        @Brad_Olwin Question: Im likely in the same boat as you on screen eyesight, and I bumped up to the Vertical for the larger display and fonts. Im assuming its much easier to read the Race screen vs the Vertical screen?

        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

        Current: Suunto Race Ti

        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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          Shrek3k @isazi
          last edited by Shrek3k 13 Oct 2023, 15:23

          @isazi said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

          @Ketoohs Ray showed that there are some differences in features between Race and Vertical, at least right now, but as far I can see the Vertical is still being developed.

          I have to admit, that I most certainly hope (AKA - I ABSOLUTELY EXPECT), that the - still new - Vertical will still be developed and receive significant updates. The update policy of Suunto (demonstrated on the 9) was and is the most important reason why I am still with Suunto.
          Although I love the app and the UI (not so much currently with the rather bugged or at least inconsistent Vertical UI), I nevertheless miss not too few features. Without updates the current balance might no longer be balanced .

          using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
          OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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            keke-hrv
            last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 15:43

            i’m wondering if the Vertical is going to have an official price drop

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              e6321 Bronze Member @BrunoH
              last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 16:27

              @BrunoH very happy with the updates coming to Vertical. Bit of a long silence from Suunto but looks like a very substantial update.

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                runomatic Silver Members
                last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 16:36

                Keep in mind, that the price of the Race is only so excellent, because it is manufactured in China.

                Keep also in mind, what’s happend with the Suunto 7’s AMOLED display after some years.

                TL;DR: I’ll keep my Vertical.

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                  babychai Silver Members
                  last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 16:50

                  this is not a question. of course keep Vertical.
                  Vertical is more suitable for hardcore adventurer and explorer and also as a survival tool.
                  Race is more like suitable for runner because of the weight and doesn’t need super long battery life.

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                    SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                    last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 17:11

                    I like my Vertical very much, no need to by a watch at the moment

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                      BrunoH Gold Members @e6321
                      last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 18:04

                      @e6321 exactically, and I find it easier to wait for the update now that I know what to expect!

                      Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                      Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                      Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                        BrunoH Gold Members @runomatic
                        last edited by BrunoH 13 Oct 2023, 18:18

                        @runomatic hey mate, educate me! What happened to S7 amoled? I got rid of mine pretty early and S7 kinda dropped from my radar.

                        Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                        Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                        Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                          Egika Platinum Member @BrunoH
                          last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 18:21

                          @BrunoH it is a Smartwatch with a battery lasting between 1-2 days running Android WearOS.
                          Introduced 3 years ago or so, not in the Suunto portfolio anymore.

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                          Run Lime

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                            stromdiddily Gold Members @BrunoH
                            last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 18:50

                            @BrunoH said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

                            @runomatic hey mate, educate me! What happened to S7 amoled? I got rid of mine pretty early and S7 kinda dropped from my radar.

                            Suunto kind of got screwed a bit by WearOS tbh. Was a really cool idea but dependent on a 3rd party OS makes it tough to sustain

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                            User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                              nseslija Bronze Member
                              last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 19:16

                              Definitely keep the Vertical, really love the watch! I would choose Vertical over Race if I was buying a watch today. Solar, battery life… and I prefer MIP over AMOLED…

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                                BrunoH Gold Members @Egika
                                last edited by BrunoH 13 Oct 2023, 19:22

                                @Egika thank you, I know what S7 was. I had one… The battery lasted hardly 24 hours (brand new) and it was crashing constantly (among other fatal errors).

                                I was just wondering if the amoled display suffered from some long time problems.

                                Quoting @runomatic :
                                Keep also in mind, what’s happend with the Suunto 7’s AMOLED display after some years.

                                Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                                Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                                Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                                  Kowalski Bronze Member @Andrew_
                                  last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 19:43

                                  @Andrew_

                                  You should not buy a new watche just because there is a new one…

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @BrunoH
                                    last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 19:49

                                    @BrunoH yes, quite some users had screen burn issues. Suunto must have replaced a lot of screens…
                                    I rather guess they learned from this screen-wise and don’t want to make this happen again…

                                    t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                    Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                    Run Lime

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                                      taziden Gold Members @Egika
                                      last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 19:54

                                      @Egika said in The Race is nice, but I’m still holding on to my Vertical:

                                      @BrunoH yes, quite some users had screen burn issues. Suunto must have replaced a lot of screens…
                                      I rather guess they learned from this screen-wise and don’t want to make this happen again…

                                      Desfit showed in his review that it was taken into account with the Race, with “pixel shifting” (don’t know how to say that better). The characters displayed would move from time to time, so as not to burn parts of the screen.

                                      S9PP

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @taziden
                                        last edited by 13 Oct 2023, 20:19

                                        @taziden correct. Those always on energy saving displays are designed in a way that not always the same pixels are activated.
                                        Plus I am very sure that the display hardware is 3 years improved since Suunto 7

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                                        Run Lime

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                                          isazi Moderator
                                          last edited by 14 Oct 2023, 01:59

                                          Suunto devs are working really hard to make the new firmware (probably expected in Fall 2023, let’s say a Tuesday like in the past?) stable and full of new features, large and small. There’s even still development on the GNSS firmware. The Vertical is definitely not an abandoned watch.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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