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New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings

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    altcmd Silver Members @stromdiddily
    last edited by 2 Nov 2023, 18:07

    @stromdiddily I have raised this a few months ago here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9342/out-of-zone-vibration?_=1698948347504

    I do not believe out of zone notification/vibration is implemented on any structured workout or Guide implementation.

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      geolerigolo Bronze Member @altcmd
      last edited by 2 Nov 2023, 19:14

      @altcmd I donโ€™t understand how in 2023 alerts during workouts are not the most basic thing of watches. Every other major sport company has native alertsโ€ฆ

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        stromdiddily Gold Members @altcmd
        last edited by 2 Nov 2023, 19:47

        @altcmd said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:

        @stromdiddily I have raised this a few months ago here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9342/out-of-zone-vibration?_=1698948347504

        I do not believe out of zone notification/vibration is implemented on any structured workout or Guide implementation.

        Thanks for chiming in! I never create in SA directly so wasnโ€™t sure on it

        Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

        User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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          wmichi @stromdiddily
          last edited by 2 Nov 2023, 19:52

          @stromdiddily I just tried it out ๐Ÿ™‚ There are no zone alarms for structured workouts created via Suunto app.

          By the way, another little bug: Wrong language in the guide screen. My watch is set to English, but the guide screen is German. Probably because my phone is set to German. Thatโ€™s the same as with the turn by turn notifications. Those notifications are always in the phoneโ€™s language.

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            FoleyRose
            last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 00:26

            I just had my first structured workout, and the fact that there are no out of zone alerts is a deal breaker for me. Iโ€™m gonna be refunding my Race.

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              craigeggleton Bronze Member @FoleyRose
              last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 05:54

              @FoleyRose Are you referring to audible alerts or vibrations?I believe the only options are to add heart rate or pace alerts with the color coded tachometer. I believe that is how garmin does it as well. I do believe i recall there are audible alerts if you pair headphonesโ€ฆi cannot swear to this

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                altcmd Silver Members @craigeggleton
                last edited by altcmd 11 Mar 2023, 06:01 3 Nov 2023, 06:01

                @craigeggleton changing colour in the tachometer is not an alert in the same way changing pace and watch confirming the changed pace is not an alert. We are talking about an audible or vibration alert which Garmin, Polar, Coros and Wahoo have but guess who does notโ€ฆ.

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                  leafs93 Bronze Member
                  last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 06:29

                  Noticed that Suunto does not have a stride length field for runningโ€ฆ thought this is one of the most basic running field which should be included. Will it ever be included ?

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                    geolerigolo Bronze Member @altcmd
                    last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 09:48

                    @altcmd I donโ€™t understand at all the choices that Suunto makes. They probably have the best and most accessible app but they lack some really basic things like alerts, though they include a structured workout section on the app. And even if it is better than nothing, most of the things that are Suunto apps should be native to the watch like NGP or the threshold tests or stride length, slope, drinking and eating alerts, HR zones duration, the safe app etc.
                    It looks like a really good watch with really poor functions. I also think if it is not resolved soon via a firmware update that I will have to go to Polar as alerts are really important to me (and for most of us I guess) and especially Stryd native alertsโ€ฆ
                    I really think Suunto is shooting himself in the foot not making these features native to the watchโ€ฆ And itโ€™s a shame because the watch is really beautiful, as is the app, and it really has a lot of potential, but I donโ€™t want to wait another 2+ years to have those basic things on the watch

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                      geolerigolo Bronze Member @geolerigolo
                      last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 10:03

                      Can anyone tell me how firmware updates work for Suunto? Is there a monthly firmware update, are-there no specific dates, is-it quarterly?

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                        lessthanmore Bronze Member @geolerigolo
                        last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 10:23

                        @geolerigolo said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:

                        Can anyone tell me how firmware updates work for Suunto? Is there a monthly firmware update, are-there no specific dates, is-it quarterly?

                        No specific dates.
                        The last fw update for the SV was end of June.

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                          zhang965 @geolerigolo
                          last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 10:25

                          @geolerigolo said in New owner of Suunto Race - first feelings:

                          Can anyone tell me how firmware updates work for Suunto? Is there a monthly firmware update, are-there no specific dates, is-it quarterly?

                          Lol itโ€™s soon.

                          Winners Wear Winners

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                            altcmd Silver Members @zhang965
                            last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 10:46

                            @zhang965 Yeah! Thatโ€™s pretty much how Suunto operates - soon. Everything is soon. New features are now prioritised and when you have them, they are poorly implemented to be useless. Maps, structured workoutsโ€ฆhalf baked.

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                              Egika Platinum Member @geolerigolo
                              last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:07

                              @geolerigolo there are usually 2-3 firmware updates per year. Mainly both in spring and in fall.
                              you can see this easily when checking the updates on existing watches:
                              https://www.suunto.com/Support/Software-updates/Release-notes/suunto-9/

                              Some bigger, some smaller.

                              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                              Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                GiPFELKiND Silver Members @geolerigolo
                                last edited by GiPFELKiND 11 Mar 2023, 11:40 3 Nov 2023, 11:39

                                @geolerigolo ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚monthly ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚we are waiting since june this year for an udate for the Suunto Vertical ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚change the monthly update to half year or yearly update

                                If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿง—โ›ท๏ธ๐Ÿšต

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                                  Maryn Silver Members @GiPFELKiND
                                  last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:40

                                  @GiPFELKiND good things need time ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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                                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Maryn
                                    last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:40

                                    @Marcin-Byrtek yes o know i hope so ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿผ๐Ÿง—โ›ท๏ธ๐Ÿšต

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                                      FoleyRose @craigeggleton
                                      last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:44

                                      @craigeggleton Iโ€™m referring to vibrations. I canโ€™t keep looking at my watch, especially during an interval. Itโ€™s a fundamental functionality for any training watch.
                                      I was willing to accept a lot of negatives for the beautiful screen, but that one is just unforgivable.
                                      Also, my good impressions of the OHR sensor are gone, the readings got really bad as soon as the temperature dropped. I live in Montreal and I plan to train outside all through winter so this is not a good start.

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @FoleyRose
                                        last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 11:54

                                        @FoleyRose yeah, if sound and vibration for structured intervals is a must, then maybe Suunto Race is not for you.

                                        Regarding OHR in cooler teperatures: My results went worse in fall (as to be expected) as well. I now have successfully proved a solution for me when running:
                                        Wrap a buff around the watch and the wrist. You can still see and operate the watch, but it is shaking less and wrist is kept warmer.
                                        Also I found that a tight strap that works well for OHR in summer, restricts blood flow even more when it gets colder. So I put my strap a notch less tight. Together with the buff I get exactly the same results as with chest strap connected to Vertical.

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                          altcmd Silver Members @Egika
                                          last edited by 3 Nov 2023, 12:12

                                          @Egika Its more a haphazard pattern than a rule.

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