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    • isaziI Offline
      isazi Moderator @wakarimasen
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      @wakarimasen not sure, sleep algorithms will change (no more firstbeat) but naps are (from what was revealed by reviewers) only for Race.

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      • sashaklepikovS Offline
        sashaklepikov Bronze Member
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        I’m probably already nitpicking but today sleep was tracked one hour less due to time change from summer time 🤔

        What is more interesting - a nap was tracked very well yesterday. Even better than I expected

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        • helgonet12H Offline
          helgonet12 @isazi
          last edited by

          @isazi why is it only for race and not for vertical? Is it because of hardware differences or by decision?

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          • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
            Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
            last edited by

            @sashaklepikov Are you sure? My Race added an extra hour to my sleep time due to the time change. It seems correct for me.

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              sashaklepikov Bronze Member @Mads Hintz-Madsen
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              @Mads-Hintz-Madsen it looks like a presentation issue at one place.

              Here you can see that sum of awake, rem, light and deep is correct — 7h 26min

              But in the title it is 6:30h (it is even not the difference between 07:31 and 01:06).

              And the same data on the watch — correct breakdown and incorrect “title”

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              • Mads Hintz-MadsenM Offline
                Mads Hintz-Madsen @sashaklepikov
                last edited by

                @sashaklepikov That’s interesting. As you can see below then an additional 1hour has been added to the total sleep time in the title.

                One difference between you and me is that I fell asleep before midnight and you after midnight. Maybe Suunto hasn’t taken properly into account (when handling the summer/winter time transition) that someone might fall asleep after midnight.

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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator @helgonet12
                  last edited by

                  @helgonet12 various reasons, at least for now it will be like this (it’s software, so this may change in the future)

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                  • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                    Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
                    last edited by

                    Second night with the Race. First night sleep was tracked very well. This night sleep wasn’t track at all, same settings.

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                    • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                      Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud sorry, this was a mistake by me. Sleep was tracked very well even this night. I hadn’t given the watch time to register that I was out of bed. 😂

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                      • isaziI Offline
                        isazi Moderator @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                        last edited by

                        @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud the watch even adjusts the sleep a while after waking up (after being sure you’re up for good)

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                        • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @isazi
                          last edited by

                          @isazi Yes, realized that. Very impressed by the sleep tracking so far.

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                          • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
                            Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
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                            Is there any information in what classifies a “nap” in the watch? Definitely had few naps and only tracked a really long one.

                            Additionally, am I the only one with quite inaccurate sleep tracking? I have to say, I am wearing my watch quite loosely, as it would otherwise bother me, but HR and HRV are really close to what my previous Garmin was tracking so I’d assume they are correct. However, tonight I went to bed as 11.30, SR said I was asleep by 1 (it was definitely before that, but that doesn’t seems a huge error tbh) but then tracked 3hrs as “awake”, when I clearly wasn’t.

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                              ChrisA Platinum Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
                              last edited by ChrisA

                              @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani (I am maybe repeating myself 😅) but what have you set as your resting HR on the watch?

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                              • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
                                Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member @ChrisA
                                last edited by

                                @ChrisA i Just read your post, I have set it up to the one I have when sleeping 😅. So you are saying it should be the daily resting HR?

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                                • ChrisAC Offline
                                  ChrisA Platinum Member @Pier Luigi Cingolani
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                                  @Pier-Luigi-Cingolani yes for me sleep is very accurate, when I set the rest HR in the personal settings on the watch to about 9-10 neats higher than my average nightly resting HR.

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                                  • David lD Offline
                                    David l @ChrisA
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                                    @ChrisA how do you change that? My sleep is having me wake up 40mins earlier than I am (plus HRV is so low!)
                                    Thanks in advance!

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @David l
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                                      @David-Lown said in Sleep tracking bug ?:

                                      @ChrisA how do you change that? My sleep is having me wake up 40mins earlier than I am (plus HRV is so low!)
                                      Thanks in advance!

                                      Settings -> General -> Personal -> Rest HR
                                      And yes, Rest HR is not minimum HR

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                                        macdav Bronze Member @Egika
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                                        What is the definition of “weak up”? Is it correct, it is not summed up to the total time?
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                                        • wmichiW Offline
                                          wmichi @Egika
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                                          @Egika Shouldn‘t the watch be capable of finding the resting HR by itself? We now have real 24/7 HR measurements and the sleep tracking seems to work pretty good now on the SR. It also would be nice if we could track resting HR over time instead of minimum HR, since it‘s the more important metric (as far as I know).

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                                          • zhang965Z Offline
                                            zhang965 @wmichi
                                            last edited by

                                            @wmichi said in Sleep tracking bug ?:

                                            Shouldn‘t the watch be capable of finding the resting HR by itself?

                                            No so far the watch doesn’t ajuster HR

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