Manual intervals - pace
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Hi everyone!
I m a runner and I’m using 9PP with latest software and suunto app beta for android. Starting a month ago or so I’ve noticed that “manual intervals - pace” started to count average pace including rest periods. So my typical workout sessions looks like this (see screenshots). Neither I nor many runners don’t find such metrics useful. Moreover, I don’t think it’s gonna be as hard to show sprints pace as well as rest pace and total count of intervals in the app and in the watch in summary. I think most of us plan and track average pace of sprints, don’t we?
Is it a bug or UX flaw? Previously it worked as expected
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@false Today I observed the same. This is a bug because it should show the interval not the rest pace like you described already. Anyway I like the S+ app and the watch display.
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@Mitch9 Absolutely. How it could be escalated to devs? Mb with upvotes?
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@Egika thanks. Hope it works
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F false referenced this topic on 14 Nov 2023, 13:03
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We have published updated Manual Intervals apps, this should be fixed now. Thank you for reporting the issue.
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@Raimo-Järvi Thank you, too, for helping!
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@Raimo-Järvi Hi again!
Today I did a training session with intervals.
Pace counting is fixed and it’s great, thanks! But now, lower button not only starts an interval but marks the lap. Which is a bit confusing because lap data screen hides underneath all the interval metrics for a couple of seconds.
It seems that it was like this before - while intervals screen is chosen the lower button is responsible only for start/end interval and while the primary screen is chosen this button is responsible for marking the laps
Have a look please
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@false Hi, We published a new update, now Manual intervals apps should not show lap popup in Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race or Suunto 9 Peak Pro. Thank you again for the feedback.
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@Raimo-Järvi Hello, I will not make new topic for my question and I will ask here. I am using Sprint power for cycling. In summary I can see average max power during sprints. Is it any reason for this? I think, much better is see avarege power during all sprint, not maximal power. Thank you for your answer!
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@Raimo-Järvi said in Manual intervals - pace:
@false Hi, We published a new update, now Manual intervals apps should not show lap popup in Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race or Suunto 9 Peak Pro. Thank you again for the feedback.
Good job. Thanks a lot!
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@mcindr said in Manual intervals - pace:
I am using Sprint power for cycling. In summary I can see average max power during sprints. Is it any reason for this? I think, much better is see avarege power during all sprint, not maximal power. Thank you for your answer!
I’m not really an expert, but I think the idea has been that if you aim for maximal power or pace, you’re interested in the maximum power or pace value. I think for power you can also see max and average values for each sprint in manual laps table.
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@Raimo-Järvi Thank you for quickly answer. If I have in my training for example 8x 1minute sprint at 350 watt, than is for me important to see, that I rode 8 minutes in avarege 349 watt. If I make during any of sprints few seconds peak at 500 watt, than I see that my avarege max power was 400 watt and that told me nothing. Becose of this I wrote my question.
But now I understand what you told and you are right, for another user could be this maximum value interesting as well. -
@Raimo-Järvi Hi I used the manual interval app today and i had the lap popup I have a
5 peak. App is from 23/11. Is this known? Thanks for you’re reply -
@michel-Oude-Voshaar Unfortunately it’s not possible to hide the lap popup in Suunto 5 Peak, because it has older software that doesn’t support hiding the popup.
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Hello! One more report:
When the end of manual interval matches autolap pop up it works like lap button and splits the whole exercise into parts. Which makes impossible to analyze intervals in 3rd party apps like TP or strava etc.
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Um, seems that the app is broken…again
With what I’ve faced today:
Before the start of my run I’ve turned on manual intervals. After completing warmup kilometres I pushed lap button while I was on the primary screen but instead of expected typical lap pop-up I got manual interval start. During my interval session once I saw lap end pop-up after I pushed manual interval end (but it ended an interval anyway), I don’t know why this happened.
After I synced my run to 3rd party app I haven’t noticed any intervals I did instead of the ones interpreted as lap ends.
Also I don’t have explanation where did Strava get this 11" segment as well as I don’t understand where did TP get laps number 2 and 3.
IMO the lower button should work as start/end of an interval only when specific suunto app is chosen otherwise it should work as classic lap button.
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@false said in Manual intervals - pace:
IMO the lower button should work as start/end of an interval only when specific suunto app is chosen otherwise it should work as classic lap button.
Yes, this is how it should work. Sounds like there is a problem in the app, we will investigate.
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@Raimo-Järvi Thanks! Please, pay attention to another message from me a day ago too.
All reports relate to 9pp with the latest public firmware
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@false said in Manual intervals - pace:
When the end of manual interval matches autolap pop up it works like lap button and splits the whole exercise into parts. Which makes impossible to analyze intervals in 3rd party apps like TP or strava etc.
Do you mean that you pressed lap button when autolap popup was shown? That should currently be same as pressing lap button in any other screen than the Manual intervals SuuntoPlus app screen. I thought the only difference would be that manual lap popup is not shown when in SuuntoPlus app screen. Maybe I’m missing something here, this whole thing is a bit complicated…
