One weekend and several bugs as well as missing features with the Race - I am sad

[BrunoH]

@mikekoski490 good points! Also considering the fact that you must have your smartphone close by in order to get the notifications to the watch in the first place, so where’s the problem? Just grab the phone and use it to read the message just like us old cavemen do. It’ll be also easier to send your important reply that way.

[bre ja]

Emoji’s are also not important to me because I turn off notifications anyway. I hope that the next update will speed up the wake-up time (now it takes 1.5- 2 seconds) and the possibility to turn off the screen when I use the walking or hiking profile. All in all, the watch has met and exceeded my expectations.

[lessthanmore]

@Olaf-Gottschalk There’s no need to get personal.
I am more than 10 years younger than you but I still don’t know how age relates to emojis. Well, my parents use them quite a lot.
As I said, I do understand that it might bother someone but you’re making a fuss about it.

You joined three days ago and all I can see are complaints and if one does not agree with you, you get personal.
So, how about you calm down and discuss respectfully like everyone else (zhang’s out anyway)?

Otherwise, have fun and enjoy whatever watch floats your boat and brings you happiness.

[mikekoski490]

@BrunoH Thanks. Seems like the most critical emoji I receive is a from my wife letting me know the dog has done its business. I guess that is important for my dog to let me know, but not too critical if missed.

[Olaf Gottschalk]

@mikekoski490 said in One weekend and several bugs as well as missing features with the Race - I am sad:

@Olaf-Gottschalk I have watched several YouTube reviews - you are the only one making sad emojis a deal breaker lol.

You don’t get the point at all. Sorry… I wear this watch 100% of the time. And even though I train 15 hours a week, there’s more hours this watch is simply there to be used as a notification device on my wrist so my phone is in my pocket and people don’t get annoyed by me playing with it. Of course I do not care about ANY notification during my activities. They could (and should) be optionally on of off during workout, but that’s another story.

Lastly, what important piece of information comes in the form of an emoji?

Gee. Do I need to explain the difference between a thumbs up and a thumbs down to you??

[Egika]

@bre-ja said in One weekend and several bugs as well as missing features with the Race - I am sad:

Emoji’s are also not important to me because I turn off notifications anyway. I hope that the next update will speed up the wake-up time (now it takes 1.5- 2 seconds) and the possibility to turn off the screen when I use the walking or hiking profile. All in all, the watch has met and exceeded my expectations.

Speed up like this?
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[BrunoH]

@Olaf-Gottschalk the optimal solution would be to implement the emojis and then everyone would live happily ever after. Those who don’t want their watch beeping and buzzing constantly could still turn their notifications off and finally you would calm down, perhaps.

But then… Do I need to explain you something about manners? All the subtle and or even obvious hints are not getting through. You are the only one in this forum who has had such a huge problem with emojis in the last 12 months or so and you just can’t let it go. You keep RUBBING IT IN OUR FACES like we were retards. That’s a sure way to get snarky responses like the ones above in this thread. We’re all unpaid volunteers here, so please stop.

In this forum you are encouraged to ask for help, assist others, help debugging problems and suggest improvements. Even some good-hearted bantering is welcome. You are not supposed to loudly and continuously demand your personal preferences or to call people names. Such as “old”, which I am by the way and that’s why I reserve the right to lecture the young padawans when they get too rowdy.

The infamous “zhang” just got banned for three months for getting too aggressive and personal. Think about it while you count all the negative votes to your posts.

There are Suunto employees in this forum, but unfortunately Suunto organization behaves like a stone idol. You can pray, but you’ll never know which prayers are answered. I think the idol heard you already. Can we move on to the next prayer and behave?

[MiniForklift]

I bought my Vertical for the same reason that I bought my S9B years before it - to train hard, seek adventure and prevent me from getting lost when I am running in new places. It does this perfectly and after owning numerous watches (Grit X Pro, Enduro, Rival Elemnt, Apex Pro) I can honestly say that the SV beats them all by a country mile

You’ll never please everyone, especially the people that don’t do their research before they buy or they blindly buy a Suunto after decades of being a Garmin user. I think before I purchased I watched every one of the review videos and did a deep dive online, I would’ve spent hours before I finally hit the ‘Buy Now’ button. I can’t see me buying a different watch for at least a few years and that’s often not the headspace I occupy

Oh and FWIW I couldn’t care less about emoji’s either - but I probably would if I owned a smartwatch. However both the SR/SV are a military grade tested beast of a serious sports & adventure watch so I would argue that the importance of visible emoji’s are a little lower down on the To Do list. Apologies for the ramble

[wmichi]

Maybe an Apple Watch (or Wear OS device) on the second wrist could be an option? This way you could have the best of both worlds - sports and smartwatch stuff. I bought an older used AW when my son was born. I wanted to be available for my wife during training, so that I don’t miss important messages or if something happened. At that time I had a Polar and notifications didn’t work so well on this device. It’s weird at first to run around with two watches, but it works. Of course it costs money, but second hand AW (SE) + Race can be cheaper than a Vertical.

[bre ja]

@Egika
Wow , that is fast!
Unfortunately mine is lagging, at least for now.
20231110_210413.mp4

[pilleus]

This topic has actually about 1.9k readings or views, more than other topics. Seems to be stuff, that is interesting people.

I do not understand, why @Olaf-Gottschalk is threatened with a ban or voted with -1 …

And the answer to buy a smartwatch and not a sports watch is strange. A lot of smartwatch stuff is integrated in Suunto watches as sports watches. No doubt. Music controls, sleep tracking, messages, burned calories and more.

If I read the topic about problems with sleep tracking, nobody says, buy a medical device to track your sleep, this is a sports watch.
If I read the topic about problems with HRV, nobody says, take a phone app, this is a sports watch.
If i read the topic about problems with maps and turn-by-turn navigation, nobody says, take a paper map or a navigation device, this is a sports watch.

But If somebody shows problems you can read in this topic, the opener of the topic will be ridiculed and evaluated negatively.

I want to wear the SV as my all day watch and for me it is strange too, to have an empty message from WhatsApp showing a grey and empty square. Happened two times this evening. No great problem, but it’s not state of the art. And Suunto watches are state of the art as I read again and again in this forum.

That’s why it would be fair to take all topics equally seriously, even if some people don’t need it.

Thanks for reading, enjoy your watch and be smart or sporty!

[wmichi]

@pilleus I can only speak for myself, but I take this topic seriously. But what could anyone here do to help? Suunto watches don’t support emojis currently. Period. If you absolutely need this, buy Garmin or whatever other brand handles notifications better. If you don’t want another brand, you could have a dedicated smartwatch on your other wrist. That’s what I meant in my previous post. If Suunto’s smart features are not enough, but you still want to have a Suunto sports watch, you simply need another device. It sucks, it’s a workaround, and expensive, depending on what you buy. Third option is to contact support, raise a feature request (this won’t be the first asking for emoji support) and to simply wait for Suunto to handle emojis correctly. I don’t see any more options in this regard.

[ChrisA]

@pilleus said in One weekend and several bugs as well as missing features with the Race - I am sad:

I do not understand, why @Olaf-Gottschalk is threatened with a ban or voted with -

I think the criticism is not so much about that it’s articulated, but the frequency of it and especially the way it’s done (e.g. by using capital letters) I think everyone agrees, that emoticons would be a nice thing to have and that’s a fair thing to ask for (while I would prefer other things to be addressed first e.g. more customizable watch faces).

[A Former User]

@pilleus said

I do not understand, why @Olaf-Gottschalk is threatened with a ban or voted with -1 …

Indeed, the best way to keep people away from this forum. In all posts of this user I’ve never read anything wrong or bad, just an upset user with his own reasons! Farewell.

[David l]

@MiniForklift didn’t you know that all military orders are executed on the ?

Sorry, couldn’t help myself

[David l]

@bre-ja this was one of the reasons I wasn’t too keen on the Epix pro - the lag was very similar to this.

[altcmd]

From what I am reading, @Olaf-Gottschalk is looking for something perfect. Alas, aren’t we all? But the difference lies in the emojis - never knew this would be a deal breaker. It’s like if one is out on a long run and you suddenly get a emoji from your boss, and you don’t know what it is. Because this one little emoji is so critical to be read on a watch that you forgot you had a phone. Like @GiPFELKiND you too need a maybe a few

Jokes aside, get an Apple Watch and just deal with charging it everyday if emojis are so important to you. Until you find some other deal breaker there too.

[Brad_Olwin]

I think it inappropriate to downvote unless there is an obvious intent to ridicule someone. I think we all need to remember that English may not be a first language and language as well as cultural differences may increase difficulties in communication. Let’s keep this friendly and helpful here and respect each other. @Olaf-Gottschalk I have not downvoted any of your posts and I agree with you about emojis as I would like having them too.

But I would rather have first

1. Zoomable route profile with color for grades
2. Offline maps and offline routing on SA to transfer to watch when I have no cellular.

[altcmd]

@Brad_Olwin while English might explain some differences, I don’t think the use of ALL CAPS is an excuse. This kinda gives away the intent and purpose of the message that was intended. Just my two cents!

[jjorgemoura]

@mikekoski490 Totally agree.
I want my Suunto watch to be a Sport watch, something that I can trust during an ultra race that can take up to 48 hours non stop (e.g. a mountain 100miler). By trust I mean: don’t crash, records everything correctly, battery don’t die unexpectedly or give incorrect values, battery that lasts the entire duration in one go or with just a short charge to top up, navigation + maps and that give me accurate values/metrics (pace, avg page, distance, elevation, etc). This needs to be 100% guaranteed and should be the core focus.

For everything else, I have a smartphone and/or a smartwatch.

I don’t want or need my Sport watch to do what I already have in my Smartwatch. I don’t want or need my Sport watch to play music, have payments (NFC), have my Parkrun barcode, make calls or display notifications. I wan’t and need a trustworthy sport watch to help me at 3am in the middle of nowhere. Note that all ultra races require (or should, for security reasons) that you run with a smartwatchsmartphone* and, depending on distance/duration, with a power bank.

Of course it would be awesome if the Sport watch support other sport related features, such as the HR, HRV, sleep tracking, nutrition alerts or race notes (as recently added as S+), etc. But I see this as a non-essential.

I often see some people buying a proper full featured, top of the line, Sport watch just to go to the gym or a 5/10 Km around the block or local park. It’s like having a 500HP SUV or 4x4 to do the school run in a city.

* I meant smartphone instead of smartwatch