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Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update

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    gone troppo Bronze Member @peegee
    last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 19:39

    @peegee

    I still get results like this once or twice a week the rest of the time it nails it almost perfectly which is bizzare.

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      DrSilverthorn @Patrick Löffler 0
      last edited by 19 Nov 2023, 20:15

      @Patrick-Löffler-0 I also had this enabled - never received a reminder… And sleep tracking doesn’t work for me (not on any other watch either).

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        BrunoH Gold Members @DrSilverthorn
        last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 05:18

        The three nights right after the sw update were pretty bad but I did hard reset yesterday and this night was almost spot on. I’ve had my “get-up” reminder off the whole time.

        Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
        Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
        Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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          Tieutieu Platinum Member
          last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 05:52

          Since update, sleep tracking has been really more accurate for me !

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            Mitch9
            last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:01

            For me sleep tracking worked before and after the update. With the new firmware the sleep quality is more optimistic.

            But I miss the nap detection! SV didn’t receive that feature???

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (Sand)
            SA: Android (beta)
            HRS: Polar H10

            B 1 Reply Last reply 20 Nov 2023, 06:06 Reply Quote 0
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              BrunoH Gold Members @Mitch9
              last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:06

              @Mitch9 the missing features (sleep stages, nap detection) are licensed sw from a 3rd party. They might be introduced to Vertical later on, but no promises yet. This was discussed in another thread.

              Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
              Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
              Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                renton82 Platinum Member @BrunoH
                last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:18

                @BrunoH I didn’t noticed it since this morning. where I can find that thread?

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                  BrunoH Gold Members @renton82
                  last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 06:30

                  @renton82 I think it was this one:

                  https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

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                  Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                  Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                    DrSilverthorn @DrSilverthorn
                    last edited by DrSilverthorn 20 Nov 2023, 12:36

                    After turning off the movement reminder, sleep tracking worked for me for the first time last night. And it was spot on. Will have to see what the future holds.

                    Update: That was the one and only night that it worked. Since then, many nights have no sleep recorded at all. I am a restless sleeper, and tend to wake every 90 minutes or so - but sometimes not.

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                      peegee @RightNow
                      last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 12:54

                      @RightNow yes i did but I feel like I’m changing physiology to suit technology, shouldn’t technology serve physiology?

                      Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                      Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                      Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                        peegee @Guest
                        last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 12:55

                        @tomasbartko me neither… wonder why

                        Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                        Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                        Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                          peegee @Patrick Löffler 0
                          last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 13:04

                          @Patrick-Löffler-0 I haven’t had the pleasure of getting reminded to stand up… looking forward for a surprise future reminder

                          Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                          Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                          Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                            peegee @gone troppo
                            last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 13:13

                            @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                            I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

                            Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                            Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                            Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                              Egika Platinum Member
                              last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 14:03

                              The stand up reminder is triggered if you do less than 40 steps in a period of 2h.
                              If you then do move more, you are awarded (see below).
                              As Vertical step counter is pretty sensitive, it is probably counting more than those 40…
                              I have received the reminder a couple of times with Suunto Race.
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                                babychai Silver Members
                                last edited by babychai 20 Nov 2023, 14:06

                                @Egika
                                Today i received Stand up reminder after i sit for 2 hours. Is it remind every 2 hours if less than 40 steps for the next 2 hours?

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                                  Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member @Egika
                                  last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 16:36

                                  @Egika Thanks for the pictures of the move alert. 40 steps in 2 hours is really not a lot. That’s probably the personal reason for me why I never get it.

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @peegee
                                    last edited by 20 Nov 2023, 16:57

                                    @peegee said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                                    @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                                    I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

                                    This happens to me as well. Sometimes sleep is perfect, it was last night and sometimes the watch states I am awake for 2h and I was not. It may be that I move around more during my sleep than most. I think the tracking will be improved. However, I have seen that the new firmware is far better than just a couple test versions prior. Sleep tracking is likely very difficult and I listen more to how I feel than what my watch tells me.

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                                      peegee @peegee
                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:33

                                      @peegee
                                      Dissapointed again with 3 1/2h less sleep, after raising rest heart rate by 15 bpm… didn’t do any good at all😟

                                      Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
                                      Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                                      Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                                        Stefan Kersting
                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:55

                                        if you want an evaluation of how good sleep tracking works I think you have to compare the watch tracking when sleeping in a sleeping lab. Even if we are sleeping we are moving a lot. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Some times we register at we have moved a lot, sometimes not. But the watch does 😉 so it would be interesting to compare the tracking of the watch with a camera recording of the sleep 😉

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                                          AnonVerticalOwner @peegee
                                          last edited by 21 Nov 2023, 07:56

                                          Just adding my voice to the mix. Sleep tracking lost all accuracy after the update here too. The last three days read 12h, 2:23h, and 1:19h, while it should’ve read something like 5:30h, 7h, and 5:30h. It’s not just slightly off and balancing out; it is very far off.

                                          I love the UI/nav changes and the additional bits, but would also love to keep the basics 😅

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