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    Broken Backside in the OHR sensor?

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    • L Offline
      lessthanmore Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
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      @GiPFELKiND Easy … He only wanted to know if it came out of the box like that or after some usage.

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      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
        Brad_Olwin Moderator @GiPFELKiND
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        @GiPFELKiND No, I am not saying you are stupid. Here is a photo of the back of my S9PP, which I wear a lot and bought when released. The HR is working for me and I am not asking for a refund.
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        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
          GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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          @Brad_Olwin i only mean the thing in the red circle. The resr Scratch seems normal. I only mean the Scratches in the red Lining IMG_20231120_165642.jpg

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            SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
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            @GiPFELKiND OMG 😱 what are you doing with your watch? Perhaps you have hairs on your wrist like steel wool? 🤔🙉 I wear my watch 24/7 since may, not only for sports, also for swimming, playing on the beach in summer, working in the garden… it looks fine… it‘s Not normal that the sensor looks so scratchy

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            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
              Brad_Olwin Moderator @GiPFELKiND
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              @GiPFELKiND Does the HR work? You have a warranty on the watch! Rather than spend so much time taking pictures and posting potential problems, wait until there is a problem. If HR is clearly affected or the backing starts peeling, which will affect HR, contact support and get a replacement. My time and that of others trying help folks is limited here.

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              • Todd DanielczykT Offline
                Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @GiPFELKiND
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                @GiPFELKiND I am leaning towards material incompatibility due to multiple failures on your watch(es)…

                Let me explain this a bit more; materials like acrylic are susceptible to reactions with alcohol, polycarbonate will craze when they come in contact with acetic acid (vinegar) and acetone will react with polycarbonate, acrylic, PVC. That’s why you never clean a polycarbonate window with most household glass cleaners as it will haze and get small cracks to form into larger cracks.

                If I knew the exact composition of the back of the watch I could point you what may be causing this.

                As there have been multiple systemic failures of the backs of your watch it is more than likely something with body chemistry and a reaction is the material. I’ve seen diabetic people that produce keotones in high amounts (have that acetone sweet smell to breath) have to switch to metal eyeglass frames as the acrylic eyeglass frames will break down along the ears, temples and nose piece. People that sweat acetic acid will have their armrest on a car door get hazy.

                For me, i know to never use DEET on my gear as it will cause any of my polymer gear to soften and melt. Titanium is my preference for watch bodies so I don’t have bio-compatability issues; I can rash with some nickel and copper alloys.

                TL:DR in this case it’s pointing to a you not being compatible and will more than likely keep happening. You may have to switch products to prevent the same issues repeating.

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                • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                  GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Todd Danielczyk
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                  @Todd-Danielczyk hey Todd 🤔sounds really interesting… The thing with the ketones… I had did a ketone eating time few weeks before… Could this really be the answer? 🙈🤔

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                  • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Todd Danielczyk
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                    @Todd-Danielczyk said in Broken Backside in the OHR sensor?:

                    @GiPFELKiND I am leaning towards material incompatibility due to multiple failures on your watch(es)…

                    Let me explain this a bit more; materials like acrylic are susceptible to reactions with alcohol, polycarbonate will craze when they come in contact with acetic acid (vinegar) and acetone will react with polycarbonate, acrylic, PVC. That’s why you never clean a polycarbonate window with most household glass cleaners as it will haze and get small cracks to form into larger cracks.

                    If I knew the exact composition of the back of the watch I could point you what may be causing this.

                    As there have been multiple systemic failures of the backs of your watch it is more than likely something with body chemistry and a reaction is the material. I’ve seen diabetic people that produce keotones in high amounts (have that acetone sweet smell to breath) have to switch to metal eyeglass frames as the acrylic eyeglass frames will break down along the ears, temples and nose piece. People that sweat acetic acid will have their armrest on a car door get hazy.

                    For me, i know to never use DEET on my gear as it will cause any of my polymer gear to soften and melt. Titanium is my preference for watch bodies so I don’t have bio-compatability issues; I can rash with some nickel and copper alloys.

                    TL:DR in this case it’s pointing to a you not being compatible and will more than likely keep happening. You may have to switch products to prevent the same issues repeating.

                    This is the first and the best answer ever!!! Not only uhhhhhh what are you doing with your watch. THANKS A LOT 💯👍👍👍

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                    • Todd DanielczykT Offline
                      Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @GiPFELKiND
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                      @GiPFELKiND it can certainly affect the material.

                      Acetone is a byproduct of ketosis (shows up in a urine test along with ketone). The following are not compatible with acetone.

                      PVDF
                      Polycarbonate
                      Polysulfone
                      Cast Acrylic
                      PVC
                      CPVC

                      I can’t say for sure what the back cover material is on the Vertical is without Suunto confirming and I’m not going to offer my personal Vertical up for destructive TGA/DSC testing 😉 but from a manufacturing side more than likely Acrylic or Polycarbonate.

                      Either one of these will easily soften in an acetone environment and lead to the back getting scratches and stress cracks.

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                      • surfboomerangS Offline
                        surfboomerang @GiPFELKiND
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                        @GiPFELKiND said in Broken Backside in the OHR sensor?:

                        I wear it everyday, i didnt wear it while showering, i didnt wear it on poilswimming, only make Sport with this unit.

                        To debunk the water issue…
                        I have my SV since it could be ordered. I used it in a lot of watersport sessions (salt and fresh water) and rinsed it everytime after an activity. This is how it looks now:

                        20231120_173640.jpg

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                        • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                          GiPFELKiND Silver Members @surfboomerang
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                          @surfboomerang read the post below. There could be the answer 🔺

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                          • Todd DanielczykT Offline
                            Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @GiPFELKiND
                            last edited by Todd Danielczyk

                            @GiPFELKiND and if it makes you feel any better, I once dissolve a vintage Montblanc Meisterstuck fountain pen into a gelatinous blob by using the wrong solution to clean it.
                            Alcohol and acetate don’t play nice.

                            I consider it a $1,200 usd lesson in chemistry!

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                            • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Todd Danielczyk
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                              @Todd-Danielczyk 👍 Thank you so much 🤗

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                              • freeheelerF Offline
                                freeheeler @GiPFELKiND
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                                @GiPFELKiND
                                the cracks in the red circle look like they all or most of them have one starting point and it could as well be an exceeded point load and result in mechanical stress and cracks

                                living sideways

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                                • TieutieuT Offline
                                  Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                                  If I look to the back of my SV, it’s seems perfect (thanks to new SA activies analysis I can proudly claim that since May 16th it has recorded 296 exercices during 387 hours, 2900km, 79km elevation, and was worn H24 with sleep tracking 😁 ).
                                  If I take time to mount my macro photo lens, zoom in zoom in again, back looks “irregular” like on @Brad_Olwin pictures.
                                  It not eye noticable, but when highly zoom it’s not perfect…(I bet i would die if I was looking with a microscope)
                                  But for me it looks more like small coating irregularities under the back, and very very very small surface scratches amplified by light position and zoom.

                                  @GiPFELKiND sorry for you it happens to you again. One default watch is bad luck, two is bad coincidence, three is really suspicious.

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                                    A Former User @Todd Danielczyk
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                                    @Todd-Danielczyk said in Broken Backside in the OHR sensor?:

                                    vintage Montblanc Meisterstuck fountain pen

                                    yeah my daily driver on the paper! sorry to read that!

                                    btw this is mine after 4 months (worn 24/7, housework, sawing wood, running on trails, sea kayaking, lots of keyboarding 😊 ). Not a single scratch!
                                    IMG_1012.jpg

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                                      A Former User @Guest
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                                      @westie Same here… I have just checked my SV, there’s literally no scratch on the sensor. I guess I am not training enough 🙂

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