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    Mads Hintz-Madsen @babychai
    last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 07:53

    @babychai and if you compare the values in Android and iOS versions of the Suunto App, you will also sometimes see a difference between the Android and iOS apps.

    So it does indeed seem like there in general is some inconsistency in how rounding/truncation is handled between watch, Android Suunto App and iOS Suunto App.

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      Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
      last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 08:07

      I love the way Suunto uses HRV data. The widget is very visual and easy to understand.
      The only hitch is that the data is not exactly the same on the watch and the app.
      hrv.jpg hrv2.png

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        kamarasm Bronze Member @babychai
        last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 10:08

        If I understand it well, graph appears just after 14 days. As probably all of us updated watch immediately after the new firmware got out, graph should be available in the same time. 😉
        Based on it - with my low numbers - I’m in the normal range. I guess it is because it looks the trends.

        But I still really curious on why and what means these unnormal low values.

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          Mff73 @kamarasm
          last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 10:19

          @kamarasm said in HRV on Vertical:

          But I still really curious on why and what means these unnormal low values.

          With just 14 days of history, my personal observation (without any scientific knowledge on it) is that my night average HRV is little lower after a day with training.

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            babychai Silver Members @Mff73
            last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 13:48

            @Mff73 i feel the same too. my fever also got make HRV drop

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              Mff73 @babychai
              last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 13:51

              @babychai said in HRV on Vertical:

              @Mff73 i feel the same too. my fever also got make HRV drop

              question to experts : shouldn’t it be the opposite ? higher HRV in case of illness ? 🤔

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                Egika Platinum Member @Mff73
                last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 13:57

                @Mff73 no. less rest, higher stress on the body resulting in smaller variability.

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                  duffman19 @Mff73
                  last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 14:03

                  @Mff73 said in HRV on Vertical:

                  question to experts : shouldn’t it be the opposite ? higher HRV in case of illness ? 🤔

                  Definitely not an expert, but I believe your system is more stressed during illness, so the sympathetic system takes over resulting in lower HRV. When healthy and relaxed, the parasympathetic system is dominant and HRV increases.

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                    babychai Silver Members
                    last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 14:10

                    actually when i got fever my HRV drop a lot. dropped to 18. normal day my lowest is 33. so quite big different actually.
                    HRV trend.jpg

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                      Kai Liu Bronze Member
                      last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 17:18

                      Screenshot_20231201-103132.png

                      Mine is 30 something where is the chart about hrv and age?

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                        Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @babychai
                        last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 18:42

                        @babychai Pretty cool how it reaffirms your health like that! I had similar results where I got busy at work and run down and my HRV trended with how I was feeling. Pretty good indicator to take it easy or know that we are coming down with something!

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                          Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @Kai Liu
                          last edited by Todd Danielczyk 12 Jan 2023, 18:46 1 Dec 2023, 18:45

                          @Kai-Liu Here is a write up on HRV for age, sex etc.
                          https://the5krunner.com/2016/09/16/hrv-how-good-is-your-hrv-and-does-it-matter/

                          Also
                          https://welltory.com/the-12-mistakes-when-measuring-hrv/

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                            babychai Silver Members @Todd Danielczyk
                            last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 09:46

                            @Todd-Danielczyk Indeed nice to see this HRV trend to monitor our health and stressful life 🤗

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                              inkognito Platinum Member @babychai
                              last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:22

                              @babychai And beers 🙄
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                                babychai Silver Members @inkognito
                                last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:35

                                @inkognito Wow, you should drink lesser then 🤣

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                                  Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @inkognito
                                  last edited by 2 Dec 2023, 10:43

                                  @inkognito Ah yes! It is well documented how HRV is affected with alcohol consumption.

                                  In a way I’m glad I didn’t track my HRV in my youth with all the trade shows I went to 😉👍

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                                    Likarnik Bronze Member @inkognito
                                    last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 07:45

                                    @inkognito I found that beers before bed affect my sleep HR and HRV much more than hard training or getting sick

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                                      A Former User @Mff73
                                      last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 08:13

                                      @Mff73 sickness, stress, poor sleep and recovery result in low HRV. Good sleep and recovery, low stress, good fitness result in high HRV. Plus it’s also a bit genetics.

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                                        Mff73 @Mff73
                                        last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 08:31

                                        @Mff73 said in HRV on Vertical:

                                        @babychai said in HRV on Vertical:

                                        @Mff73 i feel the same too. my fever also got make HRV drop

                                        question to experts : shouldn’t it be the opposite ? higher HRV in case of illness ? 🤔

                                        thanks to all to correct me 🙂

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                                          Tieutieu Platinum Member
                                          last edited by Tieutieu 12 May 2023, 09:11 5 Dec 2023, 08:46

                                          HRV indeed is an indicator of illness, “drunkness” also, tired periods…
                                          It’s directly linked to HR : the higher is the HR, the lowest the HRV should be. But low HR doesn’t mean hight HRV.

                                          But before HRV was introduced, HR at night itselft was already a very good indicator : I can easily find every night I have been partying or drinkink too much, or been hill => my HR at night directly jumps from 40/45 bpm to 60/65.

                                          So HRV is certainly an interesting indicator, but at my athletic level, I still don’t know excatly how I will be able to use it. For now I imagine to combine it with CTL/TSS tracking to sometime decide not to go training even if I want to. Somehow helping me “train better, don’t train more”.

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