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Software update 2.30.32

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    tiago Bronze Member @gizmo
    last edited by tiago 30 Nov 2023, 18:13

    @gizmo for me worked well,so this is the kind of things work well for me but for others maybe not. So if doesn’t work for you you have to find something who works for you

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @gizmo
      last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 18:34

      @gizmo OHR is going to be highly user dependent! I found the Epix 2 no better than the Race for me. Apple for me and for others is clearly better but still not good enough. Just because it does not work for you does not mean it is general for others. There are a fair number of field testers that get great OHR from Suunto devices, I do not but Garmin is no better for me either. Please don’t generalize your OHR data for everyone, the underlying technology is simply not good enough for that no matter who makes the sensor.
      For monitoring HR daily (no exercise) and sleep, OHR on all devices I have tested are equivalent.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        Rob33 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 19:26

        I don’t have the Suunto Race or Vertical but from what I saw as feedback from 3 known testers, the accuracy of the WHr is not good, at least less than with Garmin or Coros.
        For the rest, they are cited as very good watches.
        I recognize that this slows me down from buying because on long distances I like not to use an HR belt

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          leafs93 Bronze Member @Rob33
          last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 01:15

          @Rob33 for me, the OHR for suunto race works as well as my Garmin 965, ultra and COROS pace 3. Only thing is you have to wear it slightly higher where there is more flesh and snugly

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            Frank Stefan Bronze Member
            last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 06:01

            Upgraded

            The interface is much smoother now. Great !

            Raise to wake also works much better than before. Also Great !

            There are new symbols for notifications… ok… now Suunto… implement those Emoticons for the next firmware so the SR would be near perfect for me.

            Weather widget should include the forecast for the next few days - i really miss this option.

            So all in all i am happy with the new firmware. Thanks Suunto !

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              Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member
              last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 06:46

              7 day avg. HRV = 69, last night HRV = 76. Suunto coach states that last night is below avg. Bug?

              Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                teo's
                last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 06:52

                “Improved GNSS accuracy with updated GNSS firmware”

                That’s an expected fix! Can’t wait to find if initial lack of accuracy in track recording even at best quality, has finally been corrected…

                Once donne that, there’s only a big need that still has to be answered: a real store for much more watchfaces and apps!

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                  renton82 Platinum Member @teo's
                  last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 07:02

                  CTL, ATL and TSB are still desynchronized from Suunto App, i can’t believe it…

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                    Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @renton82
                    last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 08:04

                    @renton82 I agree with you, it’s a shame that this update hasn’t managed to fix it.

                    After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                      SuuntoR Bronze Member @renton82
                      last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 08:11

                      @renton82

                      Nonono!! This seems to be so with my watch also. How this is possible? It should have been a known bug and was told to be fixed and these metrics are the key points selling this watch. Those numbers will sync but only after a power off and back on, so just like before an update. So Suunto, is this still a bug and will be fixed in the near future or is it something we don’t understand?

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                        Theo Lakerveld Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 08:21

                        Tonight was the first night I had sleep detection without falsely reported awake time. Let’s see if this is structural. In case Suunto has managed to “fix” the sleep detection algorithm, they should surely mention it in the fw release notes.

                        Previously used: Cyclosport HAC4, Polar S710, Ambit 2S, Ambit 3S, SSU, S5P, S9P Ti. Currently using: Race Ti.

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                          Egika Platinum Member @Theo Lakerveld
                          last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 09:11

                          @Theo-Lakerveld said in Software update 2.30.32:

                          7 day avg. HRV = 69, last night HRV = 76. Suunto coach states that last night is below avg. Bug?

                          The coach is referring to the 7 day average in relation to the long term normal range.
                          Individual outliers you will have to judge yourself.
                          I think this approach has room for improvement, but this is the way it is currently designed.

                          t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                          Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            Egika Platinum Member @Theo Lakerveld
                            last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 09:12

                            @Theo-Lakerveld said in Software update 2.30.32:

                            Tonight was the first night I had sleep detection without falsely reported awake time. Let’s see if this is structural. In case Suunto has managed to “fix” the sleep detection algorithm, they should surely mention it in the fw release notes.

                            this is part of the “Improved stability” aka bug fixing 🙂

                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @SuuntoR
                              last edited by GiPFELKiND 12 Jan 2023, 18:32 1 Dec 2023, 16:04

                              Okay, it’s starting to seem like SUUNTO doesn’t take its customers seriously, nor the problems mentioned. I’m slowly getting the feeling that in this forum we all are beta tester and reporting the relevant problems directly to suunto didnt work. Waited for this update for so long and this TSL CTL problem of correct synchronization has not been clarified and solved!? Sorry, such a shame for you! I’m not surprised why other companies steal first place from Suunto. Exactly because of things like this. SUUNTO doesn’t care about the beta testers… the main thing is that the money comes into the coffers

                              If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , Race s Courtney, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗⛷️🚵

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                                Tieutieu Platinum Member
                                last edited by Tieutieu 12 Jan 2023, 22:16 1 Dec 2023, 17:37

                                Sorry but I can’t stand the permanent sarcastic tone and « it-doesn’t-works -Suunto-is-fooling-us » anymore. 😥

                                Few month ago this forum was first of all a help center between users, and source of informations.

                                It’s now full of haiters and people that seem to think that developers are paid for nothing…

                                Also tons of new threads opened because :

                                • one don’t want to search or read the manual
                                  OR
                                • threads are so soon polluted that finding informations becomes impossible

                                Sorry for this post, but no one here is gona directly change Suunto’s marketing, strategy or software development.
                                But I’m sure they read everything is said here and improve as fast as they can.

                                So keeping telling again, again and again that things are bad will not makes things go faster, but makes this forum much less fun and useful than it was and than it should be.

                                I think that we should open a « cry and shout out your angriness » thread that nobody would read but where everyone should post their anger.

                                My point is not « all problems must be hidden », but that to make things go forward, a problem must be described, circumstantialed. And doing that gently works better…

                                [I’m a simple user, Suunto fan, ready to help. I’m no beta tester or linked with Suunto from any way]

                                Suunto’s devices at home :
                                Vertical titanium solar
                                Suunto Race S
                                S9pp titanium sand
                                Suunto Wing
                                S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Tieutieu
                                  last edited by mikekoski490 12 Jan 2023, 18:18 1 Dec 2023, 18:15

                                  @Tieutieu Well said. 🙂

                                  And to shift things to saying some positives on the update, my 12k trail run today was awesome, as finally able to zoom out the map, which came in handy as with the rain and dark here in Canada I missed a return trail fork. When I figured it out, normally in the big scheme of things on my track the 500m would not have been helpful, but this time the 2k zoom out was absolutely beneficial. Also finding the raise to wake a lot quicker, and of course the GPS track/distance/pace was awesome.

                                  Using an HR belt as usual, but still finding the OHR sufficient for sleep tracking, which overall is spot on.

                                  Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                  Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                  Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                  Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                    Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @mikekoski490
                                    last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 18:36

                                    @mikekoski490 That zoom out is incredibly useful! I did that on a hike last weekend, where I wanted to see where I started. Zoomed all the way out and panned and saw exactly where I was in the hike and what it would take to get back to my starting point.

                                    Decided to stop, eat a snack and have some hot coffee as I looked out on the frozen landscape. Reminding myself why I bought a Suunto Vertical and why I enjoy my outdoor activities. Ranting was a million miles away from my mind! 😇

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                                      wmichi
                                      last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 18:45

                                      My experience so far with the update:

                                      • Raise to wake is much more responsive. 👍
                                      • UI generally feels a little bit faster 👍
                                      • Sleep: Spot on last night 👍
                                      • GNSS accuracy seems improved, although it was already very good 👍
                                      • Not fixed: CTL/ATL/TSB/TSS still not the same as in the app 😢
                                      • Not fixed: Fullscreen notifications during training (like duration target, intensity target) are not closed automatically and I have to press multiple times the crown to make them disappear 😢
                                      • Not fixed: On the data screen with the intensity zones, the duration inside each zone is wrongly calculated when using a HR intensity target zone 😢
                                      • Not implemented but also not promised: Out of zone alerts during structured workouts 😉

                                      Even though there are still bugs, I am happy with the update. The only thing that’s really annoying are those notifications during training. I am already sick of pressing the crown to see my data fields.

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @GiPFELKiND
                                        last edited by Brad_Olwin 12 Jan 2023, 19:05 1 Dec 2023, 19:03

                                        @GiPFELKiND @wmichi
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                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @wmichi
                                          last edited by 1 Dec 2023, 19:06

                                          @wmichi said in Software update 2.30.32:

                                          • Not implemented but also not promised: Out of zone alerts during structured workouts 😉

                                          Who promised this?

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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