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    • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
      Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
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      Run prediction and lactate threshold missing after firmware update. After 4 outdoor runs with native run profile the watch still tells me that i need to do three outdoor runs before the numbers are ready.

      Suunto Ambit 3
      Suunto Spartan Ultra
      Suunto Race Ti

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        Eddy De Backer @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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        @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

        Run prediction and lactate threshold missing after firmware update. After 4 outdoor runs with native run profile the watch still tells me that i need to do three outdoor runs before the numbers are ready.

        Same here, different runs and walks, HR-zone3 or higher, nothing in the numbers. I did a hard reset again, try again, wait,… 🤞

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          Egika Platinum Member @Eddy De Backer
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          @Eddy-De-Backer if you do a hard reset, you will start from 0.
          For me it also took more than exactly 3 runs, but after 5 or so the data showed up.
          With hard resetting it will take longer 😬

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          • Arnaud LclrA Offline
            Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @Eddy De Backer
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            Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
            To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
            Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
            To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
            For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

            After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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              David l @Arnaud Lclr
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              @Arnaud-Lclr said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

              Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
              To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
              Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
              To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
              For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

              Suunto does share the minimum requirements 😉 8d37304b-a960-41e0-9a04-8e9456a1da12-image.jpeg

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              • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Arnaud Lclr
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                @Arnaud-Lclr I have done way more that what should be needed. I can’t even understand why my old figures are ironed out after the update. Shouldn’t be necessary.

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @David l
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                  @David-l Not the minimum. The text states at least so I think more ambiguous.

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                  • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                    Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                      @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

                      For me it took also more that 3 runs - but after like 5 or 6 the numbers showed up.
                      Noone here including Brad will be able to tell you why the numbers are erased with a firmware update.

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                      • Arnaud LclrA Offline
                        Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @David l
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                        @David-l I think we understand each other 😉

                        If you record 3 runs of 15 minutes at 7min/km, not only will Suunto probably not be able to give you any information, but I hope they won’t because that would be totally crazy.

                        The watch screen or, more importantly, the manual should be more comprehensive.

                        After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                        • NornobodyN Offline
                          Nornobody @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                          @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud You may try the Cooper Test, it would show up right away.

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                            GregDi
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                            Aproxymatly 20 runs and no predictions for me !

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                            • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                              Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @GregDi
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                              @GregDi Same for me.

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                                Iceman1 @GregDi
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                                @GregDi same here.

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                                  GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Iceman1
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                                  @Iceman1 Same here

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                                  • wmichiW Online
                                    wmichi
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                                    My Race is currently downloading 2.30.38. Maybe it’s fixed with this update? 🙂

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                                      @wmichi 🤞

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                                      • Mark HooperM Offline
                                        Mark Hooper @GregDi
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                                        @GregDi Same here for me, been bugging me for a while, update did not resolve it.

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                                        • G Offline
                                          GregDi
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                                          Wait 3 runs with the new update 😉

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                                            freddubai @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                                            @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud my 9PP did it within 3 runs after the software update but so far my Suunto Race has not done it after 3 runs…

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