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BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    Eddy De Backer @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
    last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 20:34

    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

    Run prediction and lactate threshold missing after firmware update. After 4 outdoor runs with native run profile the watch still tells me that i need to do three outdoor runs before the numbers are ready.

    Same here, different runs and walks, HR-zone3 or higher, nothing in the numbers. I did a hard reset again, try again, wait,… 🤞

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      Egika Platinum Member @Eddy De Backer
      last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 09:51

      @Eddy-De-Backer if you do a hard reset, you will start from 0.
      For me it also took more than exactly 3 runs, but after 5 or so the data showed up.
      With hard resetting it will take longer 😬

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        Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @Eddy De Backer
        last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 15:40

        Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
        To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
        Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
        To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
        For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

        After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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          David l @Arnaud Lclr
          last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 17:51

          @Arnaud-Lclr said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

          Hello @Eddy-De-Backer
          To my knowledge, Suunto does not share the minimum requirements for obtaining predictions.
          Bit i think it’s important to remember that the number of runs is not enough.
          To make predictions, Suunto needs a certain amount of time and effort.
          For example, the SuuntoPlus Threshold test analyses the last 20 minutes of a 30-minute effort, (to which a warm-up and cool-down should be added).

          Suunto does share the minimum requirements 😉 8d37304b-a960-41e0-9a04-8e9456a1da12-image.jpeg

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            Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Arnaud Lclr
            last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 19:04

            @Arnaud-Lclr I have done way more that what should be needed. I can’t even understand why my old figures are ironed out after the update. Shouldn’t be necessary.

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              Brad_Olwin Moderator @David l
              last edited by 5 Dec 2023, 23:59

              @David-l Not the minimum. The text states at least so I think more ambiguous.

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                Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by 6 Dec 2023, 06:57

                @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

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                  Egika Platinum Member @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                  last edited by 6 Dec 2023, 16:39

                  @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                  @Brad_Olwin I have done 5 runs since the update, but still no run predictions or threshold values. And why do I have to start all over again after the update? It should not be necessary.

                  For me it took also more that 3 runs - but after like 5 or 6 the numbers showed up.
                  Noone here including Brad will be able to tell you why the numbers are erased with a firmware update.

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                    Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @David l
                    last edited by 6 Dec 2023, 19:27

                    @David-l I think we understand each other 😉

                    If you record 3 runs of 15 minutes at 7min/km, not only will Suunto probably not be able to give you any information, but I hope they won’t because that would be totally crazy.

                    The watch screen or, more importantly, the manual should be more comprehensive.

                    After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                      Nornobody @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                      last edited by 7 Dec 2023, 03:20

                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud You may try the Cooper Test, it would show up right away.

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                        GregDi
                        last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 09:29

                        Aproxymatly 20 runs and no predictions for me !

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                          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @GregDi
                          last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 09:31

                          @GregDi Same for me.

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                            Iceman1 @GregDi
                            last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 10:25

                            @GregDi same here.

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                              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Iceman1
                              last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 11:10

                              @Iceman1 Same here

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                                wmichi
                                last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 11:33

                                My Race is currently downloading 2.30.38. Maybe it’s fixed with this update? 🙂

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                                  Eddy De Backer @wmichi
                                  last edited by 18 Dec 2023, 11:35

                                  @wmichi 🤞

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                                    Mark Hooper @GregDi
                                    last edited by 19 Dec 2023, 12:42

                                    @GregDi Same here for me, been bugging me for a while, update did not resolve it.

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                                      GregDi
                                      last edited by 19 Dec 2023, 12:46

                                      Wait 3 runs with the new update 😉

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                                        freddubai @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                                        last edited by 19 Dec 2023, 13:06

                                        @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud my 9PP did it within 3 runs after the software update but so far my Suunto Race has not done it after 3 runs…

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                                          j newby
                                          last edited by 19 Dec 2023, 13:13

                                          Mine is the same. Had it since the release. 4 runs a week and still no Running time estimates. Or lactate threshold.

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