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    BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    • M Offline
      Mi_chael Bronze Member @freddubai
      last edited by

      @freddubai

      Me to

      😕

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      • David lD Offline
        David l @Mi_chael
        last edited by

        Yep, mine’s gone again

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        • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members
          last edited by Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

          Mine seems to be gone for ever. The latest update killed this feature for me. Can only hope Suunto will make it work again in the next update.

          What concerns me the most is that Suunto does not release a quick fix when they add an severe bug to their products in a software update. That is not a proper way to handle customers or to compete with other brands in the market.

          And honestly it seems that a broader beta tester group is needed. Software with such serious faults should never had been released!

          Suunto Ambit 3
          Suunto Spartan Ultra
          Suunto Race Ti

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          • gilouG Offline
            gilou
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            Idem, une vingtaine d’activitĂ©s entre course a pied et trail pour une moyenne de 2h par activitĂ© et toujours pas de seuil lactique.

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            • Pier Luigi CingolaniP Offline
              Pier Luigi Cingolani Bronze Member
              last edited by

              This has never really worked for me, done plenty of runs (>50)
              I have run 12k last week for my long run, so I’d assume it should be able to give a prediction for at least 5 and 10k, and extrapolate HM and M times from them.

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              • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                Sebastian Wagner 0
                last edited by

                i never got a value for lactate threshold and run prediction. after many runs, easy , moderate, long, short, fast. no values. i think in the next update they will address the topic

                t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                • gilouG Offline
                  gilou
                  last edited by

                  question peut ĂȘtre trĂšs bĂȘte, pour les algorithmes qui gĂšrent la dĂ©finition du seuil lactique, faut il activer le suivi de sommeil ? Je sais, cela a premiĂšre vue n’a rien a voir mais des fois certaines valeurs sont issues de combinaisons de fonctions


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                  • Arnaud LclrA Offline
                    Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @gilou
                    last edited by

                    @gilou the vast majority of people here will tell you that sleep tracking is activated but that it doesn’t work any better đŸ«Ł

                    After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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                    • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                      Sebastian Wagner 0
                      last edited by Sebastian Wagner 0

                      in the change log from the newest update they wrote that the running estimate and lactate threshold problems were solved.
                      i installed the newest software on my race. and i still got no values for both. did more then 80 runs (long, short, fast, slow) before the update and 3 after the update. What are your experiences after the update? do you have any new tipps?
                      @pavel-samokha do you have any insights or ideas?

                      t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                        landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                        @Sebastian-Wagner-0

                        Same new update installed and been on 3 runs since, longest being over an hour. Still no lactate zones.

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                        • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                          pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
                          last edited by

                          @Sebastian-Wagner-0 as far as I know it should work, but I’m not the best person to ask. Not an official response but I would keep an eye on it for the next few days to be sure

                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                            fleblanc01 @Sebastian Wagner 0
                            last edited by

                            @Sebastian-Wagner-0 same here. Did my 3 runs since the update and I run 5-6 times per week


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                            • leafs93L Offline
                              leafs93 Bronze Member @fleblanc01
                              last edited by

                              @fleblanc01 updated to new firmware, ran once and all my estimates and lactate threshold appeared
 and I must say the estimates are really spot on! Kudos to suunto to finally fix it

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                              • gilouG Offline
                                gilou
                                last edited by

                                still no estimate or lactic threshold despite the update and several activities. Another silly question: is it compulsory to enter the feeling? something that wasn’t activated until now.

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                                • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                                  pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by pavel.samokha

                                  if you don’t get estimates a couple tips I have you can try:

                                  • Be sure your runs have at least 10 min of running in HR Zone 2 or above and good GNSS(GPS) track (normally it is, but just in case).
                                    • We have a nice “HR Zones Duration” S+ app to measure time in HR zones
                                  • Do 3 runs meeting criteria above
                                  • If you did mentioned above and it didn’t work and you use heartrate belt - try with wrist heart rate

                                  If you still don’t get estimates - send logs and let us know. Many issues with estimates were fixed but it could be more which affects some people

                                  Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                  • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                                    Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
                                    last edited by

                                    @pavel-samokha

                                    Thx for the Infos.
                                    Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
                                    Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

                                    And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

                                    And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

                                    Which Logs should i send ?

                                    t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                                      pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
                                      last edited by

                                      @Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

                                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                      • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                                        Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
                                        last edited by

                                        @pavel-samokha

                                        Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

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                                        t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                                          freeheeler @Sebastian Wagner 0
                                          last edited by

                                          @Sebastian-Wagner-0
                                          settings -> about app
                                          the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic 😉

                                          living sideways

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                                          • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                                            Sebastian Wagner 0 @freeheeler
                                            last edited by

                                            @freeheeler
                                            Thx 👍

                                            I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

                                            t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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